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Old 03-09-2005, 07:28 PM   #31
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Old 03-09-2005, 07:36 PM   #32
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Yes. You are. But you're young -- you'll grow out of it.
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Old 03-09-2005, 07:39 PM   #33
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Heh...politics can bring out the best and the worst in people. After being in this combat zone for four going on five years now, I'm burned out.

It's kind of similar to modernist idealism going the way of postmodern apathy. There's only so much disappointment you can take before you just feel like nothing is ever going to change.

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Jeez, you people should go watch some Star Trek.
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Old 03-10-2005, 02:40 AM   #35
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Nope, burned out on Star Trek too. It's too political.
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Old 03-10-2005, 03:09 AM   #36
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Just keep sliding back ~ TNG was often too bland for my taste, DS9 was awesome and I think more relevent today than it was during the 90's (the dillema sacrificing paradise ~ a free earth by putting it under marshall law ~ to save it) and TOS was just plain great television.
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Old 03-10-2005, 03:39 AM   #37
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Politics is just too nasty and too disheartening. I for one am lucky in that I can choose whether or not to pay attention because being so far away from the States, any news I read or hear I have to actively seek out. So, I choose not to do so. I prefer to hear about what is happening in the wider world and in my own backyard of Africa. Thank god for the BBC Worldservice.
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Old 03-10-2005, 04:08 AM   #38
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well shoot am i the only one still pumped about politics?
No. I'm burned but not out. CSPAN and Air America are still my favorite soaps for the daytime.

But weekends and evenings are off limits. Though I did watch Rathers goodbye program last night.

edited to add: Once you've been elected and involved in the process it's hard to turn it completely off.
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Jamila, I'm not burned out on causes. I'm active with the African Well Fund, Oxfam, Amnesty and other groups; I don't really consider these groups "political" in the same way as campaigning for Candidate X is. That's *partisan* politics. That's what I'm really tired of right now. This is really pretty natural for me, as far as history is concerned I have always preferred to study the social and intellectual life of a culture over kings' reigns and wars, which is really sort of boring to me. More recently I did read some stuff about the rise and the fall of the Ottoman Empire and some other Middle Eastern history to try to get a grip on their history and politics. But it's really more fun to look at the Turkish prayer rugs and thinking about what an unbelievable experience it's going to be actually being in the country itself and seeing stuff like Ayasofia Museum and the Blue Mosque.
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Just keep sliding back ~ TNG was often too bland for my taste, DS9 was awesome and I think more relevent today than it was during the 90's (the dillema sacrificing paradise ~ a free earth by putting it under marshall law ~ to save it) and TOS was just plain great television.

Sorry. Thought you were joking. Don't watch it. Not much of a television person.
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Im not really burned out on politics but I am burned out on politicians. I am so sick of seeing and hearing them run their mouths on the news but never say anything.
It is clear to me they all have their own agenda and are out to make a name for themselves. We need to have some standards in place for people who run office. The main standard being intelligence.
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this thing about politicians ain't new. go to ancient greece and rome, people had the same complaints i'm not excusing them for all talk and no action, but we're not at a crisis with lame politicians and we've got to do our best to deal with what we've got and to elect better people.
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But we need to have better people to run for office.
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Old 03-10-2005, 03:51 PM   #44
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that's our job. i also want better people running for office. which is why i'm encouraging people to run and want to run myself. the people elect the officials, then complain about them. it's time we took our government into our own hands if we want something done.
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Even though I don't want this to turn into a nasty Treckie tete-a-tete, I must protest - TNG was fantastic, it was DS9 that was bland.

The first three seasons were pretty good, before it mutated into this woeful soap opera (basically, after they killed off Jadzia, delved into Bajoran mythology and brought in the ludicrous plot concerning the Dominion which pretty much dominated the rest of the series); at this point it turned into 'Neighbours' in space.

At least it was better than 'Voyager', however. And don't even get me started on 'Enterprise'.

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