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Old 11-14-2004, 06:23 PM   #16
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Bush can take his Family Values and shove it up his ass. Family Values? Give me a break. He wants to protect the sanctity of family and marriage. Well, guess what: Marriage is a joke in this country. Chris Rock is right. How the fuck do we say marriage is sacred when we got all these fucked up shows about who wants to marry a dwarf, a millionaire and so on.... People don't stay married anymore. How would anybody want to get married??? It's beyond me... If you want a boyfriend or girlfriend, fine.... The relationship will, sooner or later, end and you move on.... They should outlaw marriage, if you ask me.

hey, you'll get no argument coming from me when it comes to the denigration and cheapening of marriage at the hands of .... heterosexuals.
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Old 11-14-2004, 07:46 PM   #17
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Please review Pax's post at the top of the list. If you have an issue to discuss, there are plenty of willing, able and intelligent members ready to join you.
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Old 11-14-2004, 07:50 PM   #18
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I don't really look forward to marriage. Being with someone forever? Fine, but no marriage. Now, I won't know if/who I want to be with forever until I meet them. And kids? I'm very torn about whether I want kids or not. But the bottom line is this: if I meet the woman I see as a good mother for my kids, I'll probably want them. If I don't meet that woman, I probably won't want them. If that makes any sense.
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Old 11-14-2004, 07:53 PM   #19
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did you know that the state with the lowest divorce rate is Massachusetts, home of John Kerry and some of those Northeast liberals? While Britney Spears, who had a 56 hour marriage followed by a wedding to a guy who left his pregnant girlfriend for her. Go figure.

As for marriage, if you take it from the right angle and take it seriously, then I say go for it. I could never see myself getting married, I still think 27 is young to get married even though it's above the U.S. for a woman. But I also found someone that I can truly spend the rest of my life with. The idea that divorce provides me with a get out free card never crosses my mind. I can understand why some people -- especially those who have experienced divorce first-hand -- have problems with marriage, but don't write it off yet. If you find someone you love, you don't always have to break up with them and you don't have to marry them. If you just want to live in the same house, so be it.
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The concept of morality is so narrowly focused in this country. The "Bible Belt" has the highest national divorce rate, while Masschusetts has the lowest national divorce rate. For people who are looking to find the sanctity of marriage, look no further than Massachusetts. I'm gay and I hope someday I can find someone special and get married (legal or otherwise). Gays have been getting married for 1000's of years. The difference is that these days having a government recognized union is more important legally than it used to be, and it is something worth fighting for.

President Bush's orders have killed 100,000+ Iraqi civilians in less than two years. It took the evil Saddam 30 years kill 250,000, and he was actually trying. When a woman makes a mistake or someone attacks her, and she gets an abortion, we call it infanticide. When our government makes mistakes that take away life, they call them regretable accidents on the path towards freedom.

BTW, I found the weapons of mass destruction. We've got them, and we're not afraid to use them.

Love and peace or else.
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President Bush's orders have killed 100,000+ Iraqi civilians in less than two years. It took the evil Saddam 30 years kill 250,000, and he was actually trying. When a woman makes a mistake or someone attacks her, and she gets an abortion, we call it infanticide. When our government makes mistakes that take away life, they call them regretable accidents on the path towards freedom.
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on an aside note, i wonder how many pregnant women have been killed in Iraq, i.e., "collateral damage."
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:25 PM   #22
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Very good question, I would imagine about 100 maybe more.
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:49 PM   #23
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I love my husband, I love my son, and I love being married. If years ago someone told me I'd be living the life I'm living now, I would've laughed in their face. I was pretty content with clubbing every night and fucking around back then.

I know marriage isn't for everyone, some people are better off not being married and god knows some people shouldn't breed.

If someone finds love and feels it in their heart to marry, good for them. If others choose a different route, then great. To each their own, I guess...
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