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Old 11-06-2006, 04:34 PM   #46
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So I take a jab at an impulsive, reactionary man-child. Big whoop. I've seen plenty of signatures that, ahem... imply that the Bush administration is evil. But unlike you, I don't try to silence those I don't agree with.
Where have I tried to silence you? Please show me!

I just haven't seen Dean force people out of their jobs, blacklist, or jail people; so I really don't think you have a grasp of what McCarthyism really was...
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Where have I tried to silence you? Please show me!

I just haven't seen Dean force people out of their jobs, blacklist, or jail people; so I really don't think you have a grasp of what McCarthyism really was...
You have a special talent for avoiding the issue and getting personal.

"I hate Republicans and everything they stand for" - Howard Dean

You seem to know as much as a rock about the Venona cables and the Cold War, not that it has ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC. But nice try.
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You have a special talent for avoiding the issue and getting personal.
There wasn't any issue to avoid, if there was this thread would be full of real discussion rather than telling you the title was wrong.


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"I hate Republicans and everything they stand for" - Howard Dean

You seem to know as much as a rock about the Venona cables and the Cold War, not that it has ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC. But nice try.
How does that quote come close to McCarthyism?

I'll wage you a bet. You give me a shred of evidence that your signature holds water and I'll never bother you about your sig again no matter how bad it is. But if you can't, and it has to be convincing evidence, then you have to write "Halleluiah Rumsfeld gone!!!" and keep it as your signature for a whole week.

Are you up for it?
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many faith based voters should be thanked!!!!


many of them turned their backs on Bush and the GOP this time around

they have seen the light
they could no longer stomach the corruption


and see these people for the frauds they are.

many faith basers voted for traditional marriage (not my personal belief)

but against the GOP and for the DEMs
they no longer see the GOP as the party with better values,
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many faith based voters should be thanked!!!!


many of them turned their backs on Bush and the GOP this time around

they have seen the light
they could no longer stomach the corruption


and see these people for the frauds they are.

many faith basers voted for traditional marriage (not my personal belief)

but against the GOP and for the DEMs
they no longer see the GOP as the party with better values,
Actually, rather than directly voting for the Dems, I think most just stayed home.
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Actually, rather than directly voting for the Dems, I think most just stayed home.
polling says a decent portion of evangelicals voted Dem this time.

citing Foley (cover-up) Abranoff, misrepresentation about Iraq
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polling says a decent portion of evangelicals voted Dem this time.

citing Foley (cover-up) Abranoff, misrepresentation about Iraq
Maybe the country is getting wiser?
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I've never really understood this issue. You should vote for what you think is best for your country, and if you have strong faith, it can't help but be an influence, right? If your faith tells you that abortion is wrong, or the war is wrong, for example, should you ignore that?
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I've never really understood this issue. You should vote for what you think is best for your country, and if you have strong faith, it can't help but be an influence, right? If your faith tells you that abortion is wrong, or the war is wrong, for example, should you ignore that?
But if your religion said man shouldn't shave the hair at his temples, is that best for the nation? I think one needs to vote using their morals but also their logic. How is allowing men to shave going to effect others?

What's best for the country? What's useless?

That's the line...
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But if your religion said man shouldn't shave the hair at his temples, is that best for the nation? I think one needs to vote using their morals but also their logic. How is allowing men to shave going to effect others?
BVS, comparing shaving to abortion?
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If your faith tells you that abortion is wrong, or the war is wrong, for example, should you ignore that?
Who is making you have an abortion or go to war?
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BVS, comparing shaving to abortion?
Is that what you got from that?

No, I'm not making a comparison, I'm making the point that there's a certain line of imposing your religion into legislation.

I understand people who vote against abortion(that may surprise some of you), but I don't understand bans against gay marriage or complaining about removing 10 commandments in state and federal buildings.

For these things are PURELY relgious beliefs(of certain religious people) and aren't for the better of all the countries citizens. For neither of these things are needed to protect it's citizens.

For they have no logic involved.
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Great news in South Dakota. I was surprised that ban was rejected by what looks to be a double digit margin.
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Great news in South Dakota. I was surprised that ban was rejected by what looks to be a double digit margin.
I think the good people of SD found out the truth of the old saying "Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it." And then they had to fix it but quick.
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many faith based voters should be thanked!!!!


many of them turned their backs on Bush and the GOP this time around

they have seen the light
they could no longer stomach the corruption


and see these people for the frauds they are.

many faith basers voted for traditional marriage (not my personal belief) ...

This is very true for myself and the conservatives I know. But we did not vote for the lesser of the two evil (Dems) - we are just disheartened by the Republicans lately.
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