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Old 11-03-2006, 02:05 PM   #16
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And you obviously don't know what abstract means.
I know what you think it means - the license to hallucinate a message into a deeper meaning than the author intended.
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That doesn't even make sense.

But nice try.
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Old 11-03-2006, 02:10 PM   #18
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That doesn't even make sense.

But nice try.
Of course something so specific would never give you in the left mind any room to allow it to make sense.
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Old 11-03-2006, 02:14 PM   #19
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Mac, it doesn't make sense because I dismissed it as abstract thinking, so how could I mistake what abstract means?

Get it?
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Mac, it doesn't make sense because I dismissed it as abstract thinking, so how could I mistake what abstract means?
Of course we know what it means.

And of course my spin on the thread title was intentional.
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He is however saying that faith-based voters are un-American theocrats... you know, the types who the Founding Fathers would have shot at.
He's saying that the idea of anyone's faith determining what the government does is un-American, according to Chuck. You know, separation of church and state and all that. In God we trust, but God doesn't sit in the Oval Office-sorry GWB.
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He's saying that the idea of anyone's faith determining what the government does is un-American, according to Chuck. You know, separation of church and state and all that. In God we trust, but God doesn't sit in the Oval Office-sorry GWB.
I very well know that - but he has rhetorical issues that can turn people off. Especially those "un-American theocrats" who cite biblical verses on the subject of charity to define what they believe to be the role of government.
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who cite biblical verses on the subject of charity to define what they believe to be the role of government.
Where does the Bible site the role of government?
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Where does the Bible site the role of government?
Good question.

"For the Lord's sake accept the authority of every human institution, whether of the emperor as supreme, or of governors, as sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to praise those who do right." I Pet. 2:13,14

"As servants of God, live as free people, yet do not use your freedom as a pretext for evil." I Pet. 2:16

"First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for everyone, for kings and all who are in high positions, so that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and dignity." 1 Tim. 2:1,2

"...Honor the emperor." I Pet. 2:17

"Give therefore to everyone what you owe: taxes to whom taxes are due; customs to whom customs; respect to whom respect; honor to whom honor." Romans 13:7

"...Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's." Matthew 22:21
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Good question.

"For the Lord's sake accept the authority of every human institution, whether of the emperor as supreme, or of governors, as sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to praise those who do right." I Pet. 2:13,14

"As servants of God, live as free people, yet do not use your freedom as a pretext for evil." I Pet. 2:16

"First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for everyone, for kings and all who are in high positions, so that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and dignity." 1 Tim. 2:1,2

"...Honor the emperor." I Pet. 2:17

"Give therefore to everyone what you owe: taxes to whom taxes are due; customs to whom customs; respect to whom respect; honor to whom honor." Romans 13:7

"...Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's." Matthew 22:21
None of that says anything about the role of government, it says how one should honor the government.

BIG DIFFERENCE!!! Come on, do you really think I'd ask you that question if I didn't know the answer?
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None of that says anything about the role of government, it says how one should honor the government.

BIG DIFFERENCE!!! Come on, do you really think I'd ask you that question if I didn't know the answer?
So what are you implying? There's no suggestion of a theocracy found in the Bible, whatsoever. Much of it is left for us to determine.
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Of course we know what it means.

And of course my spin on the thread title was intentional.
But you apparently don't know what trolling means - creating a thread with a sensational title with the intent of riling up anger = TROLLING.

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So what are you implying? There's no suggestion of a theocracy found in the Bible, whatsoever. Much of it is left for us to determine.
I'm not implying anything. I'm telling you there's nothing in the Bible that says how a government should be ran or the role of the government.
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I very well know that - but he has rhetorical issues that can turn people off.
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