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Old 10-03-2006, 06:34 PM   #1
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extremist christian terrorist hijacks plane!!

Never thought you'd see the day? Well, here you go! It seems that it is not only adherents of one particular religion that need to get their fix of the action.

You have to admit, has much more shock value than your average 'evil extremist muslim terrorist eats baby' type of news dished out by the media.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061003/...port_hijack_dc

BRINDISI, Italy (Reuters) - A Turkish hijacker seeking to communicate with Pope Benedict seized an airliner flying from Albania to Istanbul on Tuesday and diverted it to Italy before surrendering.

All 107 passengers and six crew left the Turkish Airlines plane at Brindisi airport after brief negotiations, Italy's aviation authority ENAC said, adding that police were checking to see if other hijackers were among those on board.

"At the moment one person has given himself up. We are trying to verify whether there was a second hijacker on the aircraft," Antonio Lattarulo, head of ENAC for Brinidisi in southern Italy, told Reuters.

Turkish TV initially quoted police sources as saying the plane had been hijacked in protest at a planned November visit to Turkey by the Pope, who offended many Muslims with a speech last month linking the spread of the Islamic faith to violence.

But Turkish media later identified the hijacker as Hakan Ekinci, a convert to Christianity who had written to the Pope in late August, asking for his help to avoid compulsory military service in Turkey.

Turkey's Dogan News Agency said Ekinci was born in the western Turkish province of Izmir in 1978 and had been convicted of fraud and pickpocketing. It said he traveled to Albania in May this year and did not return.

Dogan quoted from his letter: "Dear Pope, I am Hakan Ekinci. I am a Christian and I never want to serve a Muslim army. I wish you to help me as the spiritual leader of the Christian world."

The Vatican said the Pope was being kept informed about the hijacking but preparations for the November 28-December 1 trip to Turkey were going ahead.

NO WEAPONS

The airliner was flying from the Albanian capital Tirana to Istanbul when the hijacking occurred in Greek airspace at 5:58 pm (1458 GMT). The Boeing 737 was escorted by Greek and Italian military aircraft to Brindisi.

A spokeswoman for ENAC told Reuters during the hijack: "As far as we know, the hijackers want to talk with Italian authorities to send a message to the Pope."

Passengers gave conflicting accounts of whether there was more than one hijacker, but they said they saw no weapons and that no violence was used.

Sadri Abazi, an Albanian member of parliament who was on the plane spoke by mobile phone to an Albanian television station. "As he was leaving the plane, one of the hijackers apologized to the passengers in English and Albanian," he said.

CNN Turk's Web site said that, of the 107 passengers, 80 were Albanian and five Turkish. Four beauty queens -- from India, Malaysia, Singapore and the Philippines -- were on the flight, returning from a pageant in Albania, Brindisi police said.

Turkey's Transport Minister Binali Yildirim gave one suggestion of how a hijack could have occurred without the use of weapons. "We have information that they showed a package, but we haven't confirmed that," he told CNN Turk.

Pope Benedict is due to visit Ankara, Istanbul and the ancient site of Ephesus as a guest of Turkish President Ahmet Necdet Sezer from November 28 to December 1.

A number of planes have been hijacked to or from Turkey in the past decade, either by Kurdish rebels or hijackers with Chechen or Islamist sympathies.

(additional reporting by Philip Pullella, Phil Stewart and Nicola Scevola in Rome, Ilaria Polleschi and Antonella Ciancio in Milan, Karolos Grohmann in Athens, Paul de Bendern in Ankara and Daren Butler in Istanbul)
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"Passengers gave conflicting accounts of whether there was more than one hijacker, but they said they saw no weapons and that no violence was used."

Oh yeah, this ranks right up there with chopping off reporters' heads.
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Oh yeah, this ranks right up there with chopping off reporters' heads.
I wonder where bombing a city/village counts in the hierarchy?

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I wonder where bombing a city/village counts in the hierarchy?

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How often does an organization purposely bomb innocents and say they're doing it in the name of Christ?
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How often does an organization purposely bomb innocents and say they're doing it in the name of Christ?
erm... that made me think of abortion clinics for some reason..

also, i thought george w. had the idea that he was getting advice from 'god' during his administration...
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erm... that made me think of abortion clinics for some reason..
How often does that happen? It doesn't happen anymore at all, and when it did happen, was it very often?


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also, i thought george w. had the idea that he was getting advice from 'god' during his administration...
A president saying that he asks for and receives guidance from God is a world's difference from someone assassinating an innocent person and saying he's doing it in the name of a god.
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How often does an organization purposely bomb innocents and say they're doing it in the name of Christ?
Whenever we get a Republican president...heh.

But, for example, if foreign nations declared war on us and "accidentally" killed your family in an airstrike, you would find consolation in that it was, at least, "an accident"?

I don't think that argument works in Iraq, for instance.

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Intentionality is everything.
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Except, if I remember my Christian proverbs...

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

Heh...

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How often does that happen? It doesn't happen anymore at all, and when it did happen, was it very often?

that doesnt make any sense. how often does a religiously motivated terrorist attack happen on the US soil anyway? not too often i suppose. does that make it less important?
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that doesnt make any sense. how often does a religiously motivated terrorist attack happen on the US soil anyway? not too often i suppose. does that make it less important?
Maybe I am the one who is confused. According to this post by you , it does make it less important.

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lets get some perspective. there has been one (1) attack on US soil since THE BRITISH ARMY left. one terrorist attack, albeit significant in impact, but still, only one. many countries around the world, in europe, middle east, asia had to live with terrorism for a long time. reading some of the posts, one could think you are living in iraq and have to deal with terrorist bombings all the time. it is amazing how terrorized some people have become.
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that doesnt make any sense. how often does a religiously motivated terrorist attack happen on the US soil anyway? not too often i suppose. does that make it less important?
Who's talking about US soil? And who's talking about importance?

You called the man who did this a "terrorist" which is the same word we use for those chop off reporters' heads and suicide bomb. This man didn't use a weapon or violence, and yet, by calling him a terrorist, you lumped him with people who murder. I was simply pointing out that what this man did was nothing compared to what real terrorists do.
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Except, if I remember my Christian proverbs...

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

Heh...

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I don't remember that in the Bible. Oh yes, now I do - it's right there next to "God helps those who help themselves".
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Whenever we get a Republican president...heh.

But, for example, if foreign nations declared war on us and "accidentally" killed your family in an airstrike, you would find consolation in that it was, at least, "an accident"?

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If I lost someone, I don't know that consolation would come via anything but my faith in God. However, I do believe that it would "sit better" with me if I knew that a terrorist was the target and that my loved one was accidentally killed than if my loved one was taken hostage and had has head chopped off.
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Better examples would have been the Ugandan LRA and east India's NLFT..although these are strictly local militants.
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