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Old 03-24-2008, 09:55 PM   #61
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Never being able to catch a cab in DC because you're black (despite the fact that half of DC is black..) has as much to do with racism as an outright hate crime.
Seriously?

I don't think James Byrd, Jr.* or Matthew Shepard's** families would agree with you at all.





* On June 7, 1998, Byrd, 49, accepted a ride from three drunk men named Shawn Allen Berry, Lawrence Russel Brewer, and John William King. He had already known one of them. Instead of taking him home, the three men beat Byrd behind a convenience store, tied him to their pickup truck with a chain tied around his waist, stripped the man naked, and dragged him about three miles. It is not known whether he was alive during the dragging. Although Lawrence Russell Brewer claimed that Byrd's throat had been slashed before he was dragged, forensic evidence suggests that Byrd had been attempting to keep his head up, and an autopsy suggested that Byrd was alive for much of the dragging and died after his right arm and head were severed when his body hit a culvert. His body had caught a sewage drain on the side of the road resulting in Byrd's decapitation.


** Shortly after midnight on October 7, 1998, 21-year-old Shepard met McKinney and Henderson in a bar. McKinney and Henderson posed as gay men and offered Shepard a ride in their car.[3] Subsequently, Shepard was robbed, pistol whipped, tortured, tied to a fence in a remote, rural area, and left to die. McKinney and Henderson also found out his address and intended to burglarize his home. Still tied to the fence, Shepard was discovered eighteen hours later by a cyclist, who at first thought that Shepard was a scarecrow. Shepard was still alive, but in a coma, at the time of discovery.

Shepard suffered a fracture from the back of his head to the front of his right ear. He had severe brain stem damage, which affected his body's ability to regulate heart rate, body temperature and other vital signs. There were also about a dozen small lacerations around his head, face and neck. His injuries were deemed too severe for doctors to operate. Shepard never regained consciousness and remained on full life support. As he lay in intensive care, candlelight vigils were held by the people of Laramie.[4]

He was pronounced dead at 12:53 a.m. on October 12, 1998 at Poudre Valley Hospital in Fort Collins.[5][6][7][8] Police arrested McKinney and Henderson shortly thereafter, finding the bloody gun as well as the victim's shoes and wallet in their truck.[9]
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Seriously? It has everything to do with race. It's the same way I was never followed around in a convenience store unless I went in with my black friend. Or how in high school I could walk through the halls and chat with the principal, but my friend would consistently be asked for a hall pass.

The "serious issue of race" doesn't only have to do with outright hatred or abuse. In fact, it's the little things that, when piled on together throughout one's life, makes the effects of race even larger.
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The law that had Rosa Parks arrested and put in jail because she would not give up her seat to a white person was repealed and made illegal.

On the face of it, it was a racist law.

If there was a Cab Company that had a policy not to service people of color it would be subject to legal action.



Who are these cabbies that are not picking up black people?



Does the KKK own Cab companies?

Do you think Denzil Washington can get a cab in NYC?
Could a person with alcoholic beverages or a dog catch a cab?





Did your school have a policy that said, stop only black students in the hall?
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deep, have you not just answered your own question(s)?
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Why do you think it is difficult for some/many black men to catch a cab?
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Do you honestly think that it's not?

I'm surprised the cave that you live in has an internet connection.
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I am amazed that a neanderthal like deep has such a keen grasp of irony.
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/\ ok, if many is not enough

Why do you think it is difficult for MOST black men to catch a cab?






Cabbies for the most part are “independent contractors’.
They work for themselves.


They want to make as much money as possible.
If Denzil walks out of a club in NYC, he will get a cab.

If some middle age white bastard like me, that wants a lift to the upper west side steps up,
I get a cab.



If an immigrant cab driver thinks a fare will take him to Harlem,
and he will not get a return fare, he will dodge that fare.
If he ends up in a part of town where he gets robbed.
he will avoid fares that he believes (rightfully or not) will want to go to those locations.


I am not defending ignorant thinking.
We have serious problems with race in America.

What fares cabbies will or will not pick up,
has nothing to do with Government, or institutional racism.

It goes to each individual ignorant cab operator.
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And what top down action could be enacted by the state to prevent that type of discrimination?
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I'm surprised the cave that you live in has an internet connection.
He actually lives in a turquoise green beach house with black and white tile thru-out post Hollywood art deco style right out of the 80s.

Quite swanky.

if you're nice he may even post a picture of his crib, the cab drivers never want to pick him up on his front door step, and we can't figure out why

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And what top down action could be enacted by the state to prevent that type of discrimination?
perhaps it should be required that

everyone listen to a blistering sermon by the right Reverend Wright

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"Hillary never had a cab whiz past her and not pick her up because her skin was the wrong color.

Hillary never had to worry about being pulled over in her car . . .

Hillary ain't never been called a nigger"
Hillary looks like a good tipper, cabbies love that.

Hillary doesn't knock back a forty and grab the wheel (that would be Cheney)

Hillary called Nigger? I don't think so.
but has Wright even been caller a middle aged CUNT in a dumpy pant suit?
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Hillary called Nigger? I don't think so.
but has Wright even been caller a middle aged CUNT in a dumpy pant suit?


i can agree

that sexism and racism are different experiences that are inextricably linked

and "iron my shirt" is just as bad as "shine my shoes"

but Rev. Wright is speaking about one specific topic

this does not necessarily imply

that one experience is necessarily worse than the other

Hillary will never be called a n*gger

Obama will never be called a c*nt

but Michelle could be called both

and Bill will never be called either

i can always get a cab

because drivers know that i will never ask them to take me to SE DC

and, truth be told, i don't think it's wrong that i get a little bit more aware of my surroundings when walking around at night and a group of young black males passes me on the street

than i do

if i were passed by a bunch of drunk white women

statistics bear this out

but that does not mean that the young black men who've never mugged me

aren't going to feel as if i've singled them out

and aren't going to resent the slight stiffening of my walk, the shift of my eyes to a point in the near distance, and a bored-but-guarded look settles across my face

it's how it is

and no one is to blame

and everyone is
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yes, my heart bleeds

but I must choose

what battles to fight

what is a subtle slight

and what is a wrong

that can be made right
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Acronyms.
Fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) is a tactic of rhetoric used in public relations. FUD is generally a strategic attempt to influence public perception by disseminating negative (and vague) information.
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