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Old 11-25-2009, 01:58 AM   #661
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Idol worship (Reagan, Bush) may be a requirement of conservatism, but it isn't of modern liberalism.
Agreed. And I'm not a Republican...
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Can couples whose children are delivered via C-section be called "parents" too since their children have not been anointed by vagina?


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I'm sure this is some sort of awesome Ackbarian trap, but I'll bite. I dont classify myself as any particular denomination. I'm sure some of my reasoning falls into the secular humanist realm, but I prefer to just think of myself as an individual who bases his actions on fairness to others with a deep sense of empathy. I dont shoehorn my actions into what I think would fit into the framework of my particular 'denomination'. I'll also add that I'm not athiest, but rather agnostic (and not even a hardline teapot agnostic).
Thanks. I was seriously curious.
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And just to add to what I said earlier, like most things, religion can be both beautiful and ugly. I get frustrated with it when people use it to interfere with progress or the lives of others that it shouldnt be affecting. I just think it works best on a personal level, is all. Something happens to the message when it becomes organized; it starts being used in ways i dont believe it was intended for. such is life I suppose. I'm really not a religion hater though
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Let it be known then that adoptive parents are really not "parents" at all. Too bad for you, Joseph!
Oh Lord help us. (Pun.) What part of "I have friends who have adopted, done IVF, etc. They are perfectly capable parents" do you not understand?
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Much of this tangent seems to boil down to whether or not you think there is value in gender roles at all. For those that don't - they see no problem with gay adoption. Those that do are concerned that "gender identity" will be a problem with the kid.
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Much of this tangent seems to boil down to whether or not you think there is value in gender roles at all. For those that don't - they see no problem with gay adoption. Those that do are concerned that "gender identity" will be a problem with the kid.
There was a link I posted that said studies have been done that disproved the notion that same sex couple's children have gender identity issues
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What about single parents?
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oh, and AEON, i didnt notice your avatar before. I hope you got my Ackbar reference
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oh, and AEON, i didnt notice your avatar before. I hope you got my Ackbar reference

Yes I did - it got a good smile But he was crappy admiral and I try not to set traps, although I've fallen into a few of them here...

And Jedi mind tricks are very tough to pull off on the Internet - I've been trying to convince Melon that he's really a Fundamentalist Gun Luvin' Palin Adorin' Good Ol' Boy to no avail...
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These aren't the droids Melon's looking for?
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I wouldn't let Adam Lambert babysit my children.



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What about single parents?
Some would argue that kids do in fact suffer in this situation as well.

I know there are exceptions. In discussions like this, I'm someone that enjoys searching for the patterns for the way things ought to be (like Plato's Realm of Ideas and Forms).

One of the unfortunate aspects of Postmodernism is that debate essentially is impossible - because in order to have a healthy debate - we must agree on a "common language" - a good Postmodernist loves to destroy the meaning of - well - just about anything. A is not A
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Some would argue that kids do in fact suffer in this situation as well.
The President certainly seemed to.

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There was a link I posted that said studies have been done that disproved the notion that same sex couple's children have gender identity issues
In today's politically charged atmosphere - and considering the outrage that would follow - what scientist would dare publish anything but that result?
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