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Old 11-24-2009, 07:04 PM   #586
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It would seem - but then again, that would make biology intolerant.


if having your own biological children were a requirement for marriage, you might have something resembling a logical counterpoint.
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I'm just not used to having to explain something as basic. But hey, Irvine asked...
Basic is "two consenting adults = marriage", yet I've seen you and others walk a hundred miles in circles in order to avoid that...
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no, nathan, not related to "parenting." related to birthing, maybe, and then not always and not essentially. you most assuredly did not answer the question at all.
Actually, I did. I mentioned childbirth -- which men still cannot perform (cursed biology), and which is a crucial ten month time for women preparing to be mothers.

Additionally, the period of adolescence when a child begins to develop sexually is a time when the vast majority of girls want and need a mother, and the vast majority of boys want and need a father.

So I did answer your question. You just don't like the answer. Sorry.
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Basic is "two consenting adults = marriage", yet I've seen you and others walk a hundred miles in circles in order to avoid that...
I'm curious -- do you see a difference between cohabitating and marriage? What you've described is a sexually compatible relationship, maybe, but that's hardly the same thing.
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I'm curious -- do you see a difference between cohabitating and marriage? What you've described is a sexually compatible relationship, maybe, but that's hardly the same thing.
I do, do you?

So if a man and woman don't want to have kids they should just "cohabitate"?

I know you don't believe that. See what I mean about miles of circles?
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I wouldn't let Adam Lambert babysit my children.

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Actually, I did. I mentioned childbirth -- which men still cannot perform (cursed biology), and which is a crucial ten month time for women preparing to be mothers.

childbirth is not parenting. that's pretty basic, no?

i suppose adoptive parents or women with sperm donors don't spend that time preparing? how many families are you going to bash simply because they look different in order to make whatever point you're continuing to grasp at?

what does this have to do with marriage?


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Additionally, the period of adolescence when a child begins to develop sexually is a time when the vast majority of girls want and need a mother, and the vast majority of boys want and need a father.

this is sloppy psychology if i've ever heard it -- but i suppose it goes along with your willingness to bash single parents in order to make points that gays and single parents are somehow flawed, inadequate parents, and therefore they shouldn't get married.

many boys and many girls are damaged and harmed by their mothers and their fathers, and many boys and many girls also turn to other family members at various points in their lives.

many fathers are able to talk to their daughters about puberty and sexuality, and mothers to their sons. and many parents never have direct talks with their kids.

i know you seem to think you know the best way for everyone to live and the best way for children to be raised and the best way for a family to look, but why don't you talk to the gay people you claim to know and ask them how they're going to handle puberty and other difficult issues. it could be, Nathan, that they have an answer that might be just as good as anything a heterosexual could come up with.


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So I did answer your question. You just don't like the answer. Sorry.

are you under the assumption that you've made any sort of credible assertion or point or argument?

try again, Nathan. tell me how birthing a child is being a parent, and again, tell me what is exclusive to gender when it comes to actual parenting.
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I'm curious -- do you see a difference between cohabitating and marriage? What you've described is a sexually compatible relationship, maybe, but that's hardly the same thing.


why don't you just come out and say that the only legitimate marriage involves biologically related parents and children?

it would be much more honest than this half-baked tautology.
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I don't think Adam Lambert is ready to adopt children.



but britney can shit out a couple and we're all good with that.



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but britney can shit out a couple and we're all good with that.




I think it's ironic that some gays are equating birth to human excrement, but when imitating
straight sex as in sodomy, they're actually in excrement more often then not.
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I think it's ironic that some gays are equating birth to human excrement, but when imitating
straight sex as in sodomy, they're actually in excrement more often then not.


i know, isn't it meta!

and this is a great meta point -- really, you're just freaked out by gay sex, and that's it! you have nothing but fear and ignorance left to fall back on!

again, meta!!!
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I think it's ironic that some gays are equating birth to human excrement, but when imitating
straight sex as in sodomy, they're actually in excrement more often then not.
I want to highlight this.

Not that I think <> will feel ashamed. But he should.
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I want to highlight this.

Not that I think <> will feel ashamed. But he should.


i love how he always becomes the point we're trying to make!
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