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Old 11-18-2009, 10:32 PM   #256
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No one waited around for white guys in the 60s.
Usual misandrist bullshit. One thing to bear in mind if you're trolling and casting claims of bigotry at others, you might want to be careful your posts don't open up the same avenue of attack against yourself.

Show me the evidence white chicks were less racist than white guys in the 60s.
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Fguy you missed the point... yet again.
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:40 PM   #258
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Fguy you missed the point... yet again.

What point have I missed? Martha is slurring and slandering her bete noire "white guys" again, and I am the only one that objects. I am fully entitled to object to that double standard, and call her out on it. I forgot that the left have a monopoly on taking offense.
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What point have I missed? Martha is slurring and slandering her bete noire "white guys" again, and I am the only one that objects. I am fully entitled to object to that double standard, and call her out on it. I forgot that the left have a monopoly on taking offense.
Well she said "guys" not men, and she was talking about the climate of the 60's and Congressional measures vs court measures...

So if one were to use a little context and not be so quick to search for discrimination against males, in your typical paranoid fashion then you may have realized that...
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If someone said 'if black guys stopped committing crimes, the crime rate would go down', what would be your reaction?
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That's a POOR analogy... try again.

It's baited and has no context. You're not very good at this.
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What point have I missed? Martha is slurring and slandering her bete noire "white guys" again, and I am the only one that objects. I am fully entitled to object to that double standard, and call her out on it. I forgot that the left have a monopoly on taking offense.
While she may be painting with a pretty broad stroke, I think if you look at who was in power in the 60s, "white guys" would indeed describe the vast majority.
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You're not very good at this.
Lay off the personal jabs, BVS.
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Lay off the personal jabs, BVS.
Can we at least be fair here:

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Usual misandrist bullshit. One thing to bear in mind if you're trolling and casting claims of bigotry at others,

Here's where the personal jabs started, I won't comment on the rest...
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Yes, you're right, that is a personal jab too. Still no need to respond in kind.
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While she may be painting with a pretty broad stroke, I think if you look at who was in power in the 60s, "white guys" would indeed describe the vast majority.
And, nathan's a guy.
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Yes, you're right, that is a personal jab too.
They always are from him. Without exception. Usually nasty, pointless, out of context, and personal. Which is why I no longer acknowledge his existence. This post right now is the only exception I'll make.
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And, nathan's a guy.
Yeah, but you're not.
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Yeah, but you're not.


I was making the point that he's a straight guy worried about the impact of granting another group rights that he already has, much like the same group of guys worried about the same issues with a different group. To be fair, the guys were in control back in the 60s, whether we liked it or not. Pointing that out may touch a nerve, but it doesn't make it any less true. Most, if not all, of the anti-gay rights posters in this thread are men, worried about some imagined "social context" of granting gays and lesbians full rights as Americans. Again, it may be an uncomfortable truth. Yes, there are many women in that crowd in the US, but here, they're guys.

If anyone can find me some examples of women leading the anti-civil rights movements in the 60s, I'll gladly retract any statements that somehow offend the men here, but most of them were men.
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so, separate but equal, then?
What's wrong with equal but different? Not different in a judgmental way but in a classificational way.

We fill out forms all the time that ask for race, gender and marital status.

Single
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Why would only the Civil Union be discriminatory?
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