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Old 11-16-2009, 05:05 PM   #151
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So now all those reasons you had in the past about changing definitions, changing it's meaning, keeping the sanctity are all thrown out the window?

So none of that really mattered to you?
Took quite a leap in logic there, wouldn't you say?

You asked me if my church changed its view on gay marriage would I change my mind. I answered, that I would be skeptical, but open to change. That is true on any theological point. However, at this point in time (and for the foreseeable future) - this particular church stance is unlikely to change.
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Go Barney.

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So, it appears I disagree with Barney on one particular point.
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Whichever one you can make up

I remember a couple of people asking whether gay marriage has demonstrably damaged societies like Canada and the Netherlands. Are we ever going to get an answer to that?
Yes, the answer was that it would take more than a few years to determine that.
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I remember a couple of people asking whether gay marriage has demonstrably damaged societies like Canada and the Netherlands. Are we ever going to get an answer to that?
A generation or two, apparently.

So maybe Irvine can get hitched when he's 80.
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It would also be very sad if it is a forgery for the purpose of propaganda to incite hatred against Christians.
Forgery? What, have you never heard of these people?! They're the ones that protest all the soldiers funerals...
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That is an unfortunate picture. It is unfortunate because 1) children are involved, and 2) it is not the theology of a God most of us believe in - across the denominations.

It would also be very sad if it is a forgery for the purpose of propaganda to incite hatred against Christians.
That's called the Westboro Baptist Church. They're very real, and proud of it. They travel the country to show up at the funerals of homosexuals to stand at the cemetery gates with shirts and signs like these.
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Took quite a leap in logic there, wouldn't you say?

You asked me if my church changed its view on gay marriage would I change my mind. I answered, that I would be skeptical, but open to change. That is true on any theological point. However, at this point in time (and for the foreseeable future) - this particular church stance is unlikely to change.
No, not at all.

For years you wanted the state to "protect" marriage in order to keep it's meaning and it's sanctity, but now the church next to yours is going to allow two women to get married, what happened to everything you were fighting for? It sounds like to me that when the state was going to recognize it you wanted to make sure the homos weren't like you, but now that it's only God and the church recognizing it, it doesn't matter... seems pretty odd if you ask me.
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Don’t call people bigots and fools just because you disagree with them.’’
I don't call anyone a bigot because they disagree with me, that's arrogance.

I call people bigots when they practice bigotry, simple as that.
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I don't call anyone a bigot because they disagree with me, that's arrogance.

I call people bigots when they practice bigotry, simple as that.
oh ok, I got it and so does the rest of the USA.

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AEON, can you clear some space in your message box dude.
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That's called the Westboro Baptist Church. They're very real, and proud of it. They travel the country to show up at the funerals of homosexuals to stand at the cemetery gates with shirts and signs like these.
I am not a Christian, but it's ridiculous to imply that crowd are representative of Christians in general.
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it just should include gay people as well. in fact, gay people can procreate. you've heard of sperm donation and surrogacy? you've heard of adoption? a gay marriage blends families as well as any straight marriage.
Yes. But it seems to me that this opens up an interesting secular argument against gay marriage.
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Oldest US newspaper for gays and lesbians shutting down
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Washington Blade, the oldest newspaper in the United States for gays and le...

Washington Blade, the oldest newspaper in the United States for gays and lesbians, said Monday it was shutting down.
The announcement of the closure of the Blade, a weekly, and other titles in the Window Media group was made in a posting on micro-blogging service Twitter.

"Washington Blade, like all Window Media publications, is closing today," it said. "Thank you for your support."

Window Media is largest gay and lesbian newspaper publisher in the country.

It claims more than 400,000 readers a week for its publications which include the Southern Voice, Houston Voice, David Atlanta, South Florida Blade and 411 Magazine in addition to Washington Blade.

Washington Blade was founded in 1969 and recently celebrated its 40th anniversary. It was purchased by Window Media in 2001.
Maybe all their readers are here in FYM where the action is.
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Maybe all their readers are here in FYM where the action is.
Or maybe newspapers in general are having problems because... well they're outdated.

But don't let logic get in your way.
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I am not a Christian, but it's ridiculous to imply that crowd are representative of Christians in general.
Is this what you think he was doing?
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