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Old 06-16-2009, 12:35 AM   #661
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The fact that Justin happens to be gay doesn't change the fact that I think this argument falls on very faulty logic.


and there we have it.
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You mean, gay people have a variety of opinions?! Just like regular people?!
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but, but, but he's gay!

You all ruined financeguy's gotcha moment.
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You mean, gay people have a variety of opinions?! Just like regular people?!


believe it or not, there are some gay people who hate other gay people.
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:03 PM   #665
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believe it or not, there are some gay people who hate other gay people.
You mean leftwing gay people that hate conservative gay people? Have you seen examples of this in practice? For example, are conservative gays discriminated against by liberal gays, or do they feel they have to keep their views to themselves? Often majorities tend to discriminate against minorities, so it would not be surprising if conservative gays faced a lot of ostracism from their communities.

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You mean leftwing gay people that hate conservative gay people? Have you seen examples of this in practice? For example, are conservative gays discriminated against by liberal gays, or do they feel they have to keep their views to themselves? Often majorities tend to discriminate against minorities, so it would not be surprising if conservative gays faced a lot of ostracism from their communites.

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You're trying too hard and being very transparent...
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You mean leftwing gay people that hate conservative gay people? Have you seen examples of this in practice? For example, are conservative gays discriminated against by liberal gays, or do they feel they have to keep their views to themselves? Often majorities tend to discriminate against minorities, so it would not be surprising if conservative gays faced a lot of ostracism from their communities.


no, if anything, the "conservative gay" seems to be a bit of a phase, kind of like going goth your sophomore year of high school. it draws attention, and it can be fun to tweak the establishment, but most eventually realize that they're only cutting themselves.
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no, if anything, the "conservative gay" seems to be a bit of a phase, kind of like going goth your sophomore year of high school. it draws attention, and it can be fun to tweak the establishment, but most eventually realize that they're only cutting themselves.
Well, the various gay leaders (e.g., Griffin, Haider, Petzner, Fortuyn) of the far right movement in Europe seemingly didn't grow out of it and went further to the extreme as they grew older! But I digress.

Have you ever in fact met a conservative adult gay person?
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Well, the various gay leaders (e.g., Griffin, Haider, Petzner, Fortuyn) of the far right movement in Europe seemingly didn't grow out of it and went further to the extreme as they grew older! But I digress.

Have you ever in fact met a conservative adult gay person?


yes. you'll find that gays are as diverse as any other constituency. they are as a group consistently left voting because the right wing has centered their social platform around homophobia, but you can find any strain of thought you want.
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Well, the various gay leaders (e.g., Griffin, Haider, Petzner, Fortuyn) of the far right movement in Europe seemingly didn't grow out of it and went further to the extreme as they grew older! But I digress.

Have you ever in fact met a conservative adult gay person?
Would you ever ask such a question or make such a statement about straight people or black people?

It just shines through sometimes.
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yes. you'll find that gays are as diverse as any other constituency. ... but you can find any strain of thought you want.
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You mean, gay people have a variety of opinions?! Just like regular people?!
Like I said.
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yes. you'll find that gays are as diverse as any other constituency.
But you just said not a few minutes ago that the 'conservative gay' was just a phase that most grew out of.
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