equality blooms with spring - Page 36 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-27-2009, 09:54 PM   #526
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Tempe, Az USA
Posts: 12,856
Local Time: 08:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by VintagePunk View Post
Master? What master? You mean "master" as in sexual role-playing? So, if one person is playing the submissive role, they can only marry according to the wishes of their dominant master?

Otherwise, I don't get the meaning of "master," and don't really feel that any sort of "master" ought to dictate my behaviour. Outside the bedroom, of course.
Ha ha.

Christ is considered "Master" to believers in Him.

Satan is also considered Master to those that worship him.

<>
__________________

__________________
diamond is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 09:54 PM   #527
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 30,343
Local Time: 10:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by diamond View Post
Sure it was.
Joseph and his wives.

The opposite sexual parties only had intimate sexual relationships with their spouse who was Joseph.


That said, are there any homosexual weddings sanctioned in the Bible, Koran or Talmud?

Polygamous marriages were sanctioned by God in the Bible however.

Last question:

Did God, Christ, any Prophets, or Apostles ever attend or sanction any gay weddings?


Thank you,
<>
Religion has no place in the legality of gay marriage.
__________________

__________________
phillyfan26 is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 09:56 PM   #528
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Tempe, Az USA
Posts: 12,856
Local Time: 08:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by phillyfan26 View Post
So, we change the definition. .
You're trying to right now with only limited success.

The majority of Americans like the current meaning of the word.

<>
__________________
diamond is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 09:57 PM   #529
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 30,343
Local Time: 10:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by diamond View Post
You're trying to right now with only limited success.

The majority of Americans like the current meaning of the word.

<>
James Madison and others wrote a Constitution that was intended to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.
__________________
phillyfan26 is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 09:57 PM   #530
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Tempe, Az USA
Posts: 12,856
Local Time: 08:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by phillyfan26 View Post
Religion has no place in the legality of gay marriage.
Most Americans disagree.

<>
__________________
diamond is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 09:57 PM   #531
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 30,343
Local Time: 10:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by diamond View Post
Most Americans disagree.

<>
Tyranny of the majority.
__________________
phillyfan26 is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 10:07 PM   #532
ONE
love, blood, life
 
melon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 11,781
Local Time: 10:28 AM
Code:
                            ___________________________
                   /|  /|  |                          |
                   ||__||  |       Please don't       |
                  /   O O\__           feed           |
                 /          \       the trolls        |
                /      \     \                        |
               /   _    \     \ ---------------------- 
              /    |\____\     \     ||                
             /     | | | |\____/     ||                
            /       \|_|_|/   |    __||                
           /  /  \            |____| ||                
          /   |   | /|        |      --|               
          |   |   |//         |____  --|               
   * _    |  |_|_|_|          |     \-/                
*-- _--\ _ \     //           |                        
  /  _     \\ _ //   |        /                        
*  /   \_ /- | -     |       |                         
  *      ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________
__________________
melon is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 10:21 PM   #533
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Tempe, Az USA
Posts: 12,856
Local Time: 08:28 AM
Name calling usually occurs when in desparate moments one feels he is losing in a calm discussion

<>
__________________
diamond is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 10:34 PM   #534
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 30,343
Local Time: 10:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by diamond View Post
Name calling usually occurs when in desparate moments one feels he is losing in a calm discussion

<>
There's no winners and losers here. There's simply you, picking and choosing which questions you want to answer. And until you address (in an intelligent manner) posts like mine about the tyranny of the majority, a very legitimate point here, you really are simply trolling this discussion.
__________________
phillyfan26 is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 10:35 PM   #535
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
 
BVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: between my head and heart
Posts: 40,694
Local Time: 09:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by diamond View Post
Sure it was.
Joseph and his wives.
What is it, with conservatives and math? Seriously, you just embarassed a whole party.
Quote:
Originally Posted by diamond View Post
The opposite sexual parties only had intimate sexual relationships with their spouse who was Joseph.
I guess you've never heard of "you sleep with everyone your partner has slept with...so on and so on".

Quote:
Originally Posted by diamond View Post
That said, are there any homosexual weddings sanctioned in the Bible, Koran or Talmud?
First of all in the US, who cares we are not ran by the Bible, Koran, or Talmud.

Secondly, were there any interracial marriages? Was there any mention of birth control? Any mention of using "the word" as a model for government?


Quote:
Originally Posted by diamond View Post
Last question:

Did God, Christ, any Prophets, or Apostles ever attend or sanction any type of gay weddings anywhere?
Did God, Christ, any Prophets, or Apostles ever attend or sanction every type of celebration, contract, or issue you support?

If you answer yes, you are a liar.
__________________
BVS is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 10:38 PM   #536
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
 
BVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: between my head and heart
Posts: 40,694
Local Time: 09:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by diamond View Post
The majority of Americans like the current meaning of the word.

<>
Look how the story changes once some facts are brought in...

Now they just "like the current meaning"...

A lot of them liked it when a black man couldn't marry a white woman.

Will a true conservative stand up, tell this poster his arguments are a joke and then try to give me a real one? PLEASE!!!
__________________
BVS is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 10:43 PM   #537
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Tempe, Az USA
Posts: 12,856
Local Time: 08:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by phillyfan26 View Post
There's no winners and losers here. There's simply you, picking and choosing which questions you want to answer. And until you address (in an intelligent manner) posts like mine about the tyranny of the majority, a very legitimate point here, you really are simply trolling this discussion.
Describe the tyranny in the USA re this issue.

<>
__________________
diamond is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 10:47 PM   #538
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Tempe, Az USA
Posts: 12,856
Local Time: 08:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BVS View Post



Quote:
Did God, Christ, any Prophets, or Apostles ever attend or sanction every type of celebration, contract, or issue you support?

If you answer yes, you are a liar.
[/QUOTE]

Again calling names makes you look desperate aside from being ignorant of the scripture.



And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:


Jhn 2:2 And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.


Jhn 2:3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.


Jhn 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.


Jhn 2:5 His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do [it].
__________________
diamond is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 10:57 PM   #539
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 30,343
Local Time: 10:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by diamond View Post
Describe the tyranny in the USA re this issue.

<>
You've misunderstood. I'm saying that to simply state that the majority of Americans agree with something is not an argument for it. The point of this concept I allude to is that the Constitution was framed so that the majority could not simply vote away the rights of a minority. Madison argued for a stronger federal government than was originally proposed, because he believe that an overly powerful majority would be "incompatible with personal security or rights of property." In layman's terms, he means that there needs to be a federal government strong enough to make necessary and proper laws to prevent people from getting their rights simply voted away.

It is on those grounds that I disagree with the idea of a vote like Proposition 8. I think there is significant enough Constitutional theory to argue that it is unconstitutional to hold such a vote.

As it relates to what we're talking about: the majority (those who want to keep rights away from homosexuals) cannot simply keep those rights away because they're the majority.
__________________
phillyfan26 is offline  
Old 05-27-2009, 11:02 PM   #540
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Tempe, Az USA
Posts: 12,856
Local Time: 08:28 AM
I have no problem with Gay Domestic Wedded Couples having the civil rights as the same as marrieds couples.

So where's the tyranny?

<>
__________________

__________________
diamond is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com