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Old 04-23-2009, 08:32 PM   #331
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:42 PM   #332
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Rock n Roll started out as a noisy rebel out on the fringes of "normal" society too. And what did mainstream acceptance do to it? It killed it. RIP It couldn't be both either as guaranteed sales trumped originality and image became more important than talent. The lyrics in my sig, sadly, now used to market Burger King double-cheeseburgers.

Hollywood and the MSM doesn't share values. TV doesn't cater to me because at 49 I'm outside their demographics. The less said about hip-hop the better. I'm officially non persona in the world of pop culture.
Cool, I'm back to being the rebel. Now where is my Zep 4 album as "it's been a long time since I did the stroll."
This "under 30" just bought Fripp & Eno's "No Pussyfooting" (1973) today. And, frankly, most of the stuff played on the radio has always been weak and commercial, IMO. In fact, since the internet has made the major record labels irrelevant, I'd say, artistically speaking, that music is currently undergoing a silent "Golden Age" again, as there's an amazing amount of stuff being created today that could never have existed even a decade ago, thanks to the internet. But since the record labels would rather have 5 million sales of the latest Britney Spears album than 5 million sales of 5 million different individual records, it's pretty obvious that they yearn for the bloat and inefficiency of the olden days, back when they could invent a band and throw enough marketing dollars at it to get people to listen to what they wanted people to listen to.

In fact, I'd say that that's what's hurt the American automotive industry too. People now know that there are alternatives. And the same goes for homophobia and "under 30s," as we're exposed to an awful lot more than just the prejudiced attitudes of our hometowns. The major music labels, U.S. automakers, and religious conservatives have all thrived on telling people what to do and how to think without question. But now, with the apex of mass communication and information, that old paradigm falls apart.

Good riddance.
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Pilot episode: Water-bored

With Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice found guilty of war crimes and killed weeks ago, Indy grows tired of the televised executions of Bush Administration under-secretaries, attorneys, speech writers and chauffeurs. So he decides to take the family to Disneyland for the day. Only to find out it's Gay Day at the amusement park. "Quick kids, we'll be safe in Frontierland," shouts Indy (as played by Nicolas Cage). Newcomer Carrie Prejean (Miss California) plays Indy's hot TV wife.
Hi-jinx and hilarity are sure to ensue.

Special Guest Star: Sean Penn as Peter Pan


well played.
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In fact, I'd say that that's what's hurt the American automotive industry too. People now know that there are alternatives. And the same goes for homophobia and "under 30s," as we're exposed to an awful lot more than just the prejudiced attitudes of our hometowns. The major music labels, U.S. automakers, and religious conservatives have all thrived on telling people what to do and how to think without question. But now, with the apex of mass communication and information, that old paradigm falls apart.


i am ever so slightly over-30, and i can't imagine what my teenage years would have been like had i the internet and even something like Interference (i didn't start reading WIRE until i was in college). i actually envy the teenagers in here because they really do get exposed to different points of view and get a chance to test out their arguments in a way that was unimaginable 15 years ago (well, maybe slightly imaginable, a friend of mine had Prodigy).

i also don't know how i would get my homework done.
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Old 04-24-2009, 12:13 PM   #335
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i also don't know how i would get my homework done.
Don't worry, the teens neither.
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The people of Iceland just elected the first openly lesbian woman to lead a nation. History in the making.

And so time marches forward...
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Old 04-26-2009, 01:36 AM   #337
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The people of Iceland just elected the first openly lesbian woman to lead a nation. History in the making.

And so time marches forward...
I think politicians should be judged on policy and actions.
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The people of Iceland just elected the first openly lesbian woman to lead a nation. History in the making.

And so time marches forward...
Yes, but that's Iceland, and thus, just like Canada and most other countries, is irrelevant when it comes to this debate.
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I think politicians should be judged on policy and actions.
That's kind of the point, isn't it? Why is she the first.
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Ms. Sigurdardottir is notable, too, for being the first openly declared lesbian to lead a government in the modern world, though her sexual orientation was never a significant election issue.
(on a side note, I can't believe their entire population is only 320,000 )
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And the people of Iceland seem to have done just that.
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Old 04-26-2009, 10:29 AM   #341
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Or maybe they figure that Iceland is already going to hell.
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Today was the first day same-sex couples could get their marriage licenses and in some cases get married in Iowa:

[URL=http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20090427/NEWS/90427003[/URL]
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OK, trying that again:

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I'm really pleased that I'm visiting Iowa this summer.
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OK, hopefully the third time is the charm

Update: 360+ same-sex couples apply for marriage licenses; most in Polk Co. | DesMoinesRegister.com | The Des Moines Register
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