nbcrusader
Blue Crack Addict
It seems that this thread has touched on a number of important issues.
Joe Francis – he really isn’t the problem. He is a problem, and one that should face all appropriate criminal prosecution. The sad reality is that once he is taken away, many others will seek to fill his void.
“Protecting Women” – do we need to protect women from GGW-like operations. I’d say the answer is Yes and No. It is “No” to the extent that women do not need protection because they are women. That is sexist in both thinking and application. But the answer is also “Yes” to the extent that as a society we create an atmosphere where women may see the only route to fame and fortune is down the road of sexual submission.
Are they victims? In a micro sense, I agree with Irvine that a large number of the women posing for GGW know exactly what they are doing. The can command the camera and the males around them through sexual suggestion and sexual acts. On a macro level, however, we run into the question of “do they really know what they are doing?” Trading permanent images of sexual conduct for a few fleeting moments of fame, a cheap pair of underwear, and the false promise that they may gain some sort of power over others? They may understand how they are behaving within the system, but not realize that the system is cheating them.
Another element to consider is the obvious influence of alcohol in all these videos. I doubt any of these women would be willing to perform for the camera on a Tuesday morning after class. On a Thursday night after some partying, where alcohol has modified the inhibitions (the basic self regulatory ability of any individual) the results are obviously different. And if alcohol plays a role in the majority of incidents, that suggests there is a diminished level of consent and control to the behavior in which they engage. This is by no means of level of patronizing, but a reality of the chemically altered lifestyle.
Joe Francis – he really isn’t the problem. He is a problem, and one that should face all appropriate criminal prosecution. The sad reality is that once he is taken away, many others will seek to fill his void.
“Protecting Women” – do we need to protect women from GGW-like operations. I’d say the answer is Yes and No. It is “No” to the extent that women do not need protection because they are women. That is sexist in both thinking and application. But the answer is also “Yes” to the extent that as a society we create an atmosphere where women may see the only route to fame and fortune is down the road of sexual submission.
Are they victims? In a micro sense, I agree with Irvine that a large number of the women posing for GGW know exactly what they are doing. The can command the camera and the males around them through sexual suggestion and sexual acts. On a macro level, however, we run into the question of “do they really know what they are doing?” Trading permanent images of sexual conduct for a few fleeting moments of fame, a cheap pair of underwear, and the false promise that they may gain some sort of power over others? They may understand how they are behaving within the system, but not realize that the system is cheating them.
Another element to consider is the obvious influence of alcohol in all these videos. I doubt any of these women would be willing to perform for the camera on a Tuesday morning after class. On a Thursday night after some partying, where alcohol has modified the inhibitions (the basic self regulatory ability of any individual) the results are obviously different. And if alcohol plays a role in the majority of incidents, that suggests there is a diminished level of consent and control to the behavior in which they engage. This is by no means of level of patronizing, but a reality of the chemically altered lifestyle.