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Old 04-11-2007, 09:48 PM   #166
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I went back and read some of the first few posts of this thread.

We are so quick to judge, and so quick to believe the media.

Yep.
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It was a sarcastic reply.


should we not make distinctions between, say, being accused of gang rape vs. some man on the radio saying three mean words?
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:30 PM   #169
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should we not make distinctions between, say, being accused of gang rape vs. some man on the radio saying three mean words?
In both cases, the media room was full, so there was significant interest. Among other things, press conferences help get rid of reporters/photographers camping outside their residences and calling them endlessly. Even lottery winners have press conferences.
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So I am guessing you think these guys did rape her???
I don't know if they did or not. OJ was probably a bad comparison...I'd say they're as innocent as Kobe Bryant, basically maybe or maybe not. I think it was wrong to assume their guilt at the time of accusation (I know a lot of people made that assumption), but to assume they're saints & angels now because of the dismissal is naive at best.
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I don't think anyone is assuming they're "saints and angels"-that is for them to know and for the people who know them and observe their conduct and them as people to determine. They have been cleared of the rape charges, so as far as that is concerned whether or not they are saints or angels is irrelevant. I don't know about the alleged racist comments, from what I followed I really didn't hear what happened with that. Racist comments aren't rape, obviously. But if they happened that's wrong.

Yes what was done to them was wrong, but the distinction still exists that a small percentage of rape accusations are false. Of course for them that isn't an important distinction because of what was done to their lives by an overzealous politically motivated and completely unethical prosecutor and by the media. I think the racial atmosphere in that area played into it too. But there is a big danger from false accusations of rape(and from people taking real accusations less seriously as a result) and I hope this woman realizes what she has done to rape victims in addition to what happened to the lacrosse players. If she had to spend any length of time in a rape crisis center it wouldn't take her long to realize that.
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sorry we spit on the constitution, presumed guilt before innocence, and ruined your life.

our bad.

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so ... who's going to apologize to them?
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Her and Nifong preferably, but that's not likely to happen.
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:27 PM   #176
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dear boys,

sorry we spit on the constitution, presumed guilt before innocence, and ruined your life.

our bad.

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Well, given how your AG and President treat the Constitution like it's a piece of toilet paper, it's no surprise.

But really, this is not anything different. The presumption of innocence is something used by the courts - how much of the public ever really applies that tenet? These are not the first nor last accused who will be presumed guilty by the court of public opinion. Happens all the time.
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but these are not public figures... they are simply college students, and they did not deserve to have their names dragged through the mud by the media.
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This is the type of thread I usually try and stay out of.

(I don't have time to read eleven pages and see what two brilliant or stupid remarks I contributed)

I believe there is always more information to shed light on the subject and (hopefully) reveal more truth.

At this point I will add that I think the DA is in trouble and deservedly so.
I don't think it was wrong to bring the charges but,

There was a turning point where the case collapsed, he needed to take his lumps then.
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but these are not public figures... they are simply college students, and they did not deserve to have their names dragged through the mud by the media.
But you're forgetting..

White man oppressor.

White man ALWAYS guilty.
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But you're forgetting..

White man oppressor.

White man ALWAYS guilty.
Is that a phrase you coined?
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