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Old 07-25-2002, 12:46 PM   #76
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Three things, Angela:

1) I'd well imagine that anyone's mistakes could fill a book if the scrutiny was intense enough. Recall that the media was questioning his intelligence long before he made these verbal flubs, pointing to his merely average grades at an Ivy League school (we all know how easy those schools are) and the fact that, as a candidate, he had not memorized the names of world leaders (apparently, a little-known requirement for running for President).

I readily grant that the media has a ready-made spin about both political sides of the fence - that liberals generally care too much about their issues, and that conservatives are uncaring (or, in the cases of Quayle and Bush incompetant). But in an age where caring about an issue is far more important than knowing how to solve it, the spin about conservatives is much more detrimental.


2) I don't think Bush "got us involved" in this war. Just as our involvement in World War II was precipitated by the surprise attack on our fleet at Pearl Harbor, our involvement in THIS war was precipitated by terrorists ramming passenger jets into office buildings, killing 3,000 innocent civilians.

Further, regardless of who started this war (the terrorists did), I strongly disagree that it's probably unnecessary. 9/11/01 was clearly an act of war. It was not the first act, considering the attacks on the U.S.S. Cole, American embassies, etc. We've stopped other plots and found in Afghanistan research into weapons of mass destruction, so it certainly was not going to be the last act, either. War appears to be a proper response, it was probably the only correct response, and it appears to have been effective thus far.

If a just and necessary war is ever possible (and I think it is), THIS is it.


3) I am completely unfamiliar with any efforts on Bush's part to ban birth control. If you would (or if anyone else knows), please enlighten me.
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Some of my favorite "Bushisms" :

"This is a nation that loves our freedom, loves our country" Washington D.C. May 17, 2003

"And so, in my State of the, um, um-my State of the Union, um, um-or state--my speech to the nation, whatever you want to call it, speech to the nation--I asked Americans to give 4,000 years--4,000 hours over the next--the rest of your life--of service to America. That's what I asked--4,000 hours." As quoted in Bridgeport, Connecticut, April 9, 2002.

"It would be a mistake for the United States Senate to allow any kind of human cloning to come out of that chamber" Washington, D.C. April 10, 2002

"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the great and enduring alliances of modern times." Tokyo, Japan, Feb 18, 2002.

"We've tripled the amount of money-I believe it's from $50 million up to $195 million available" Lima, Peru March 23, 2002.

"There's nothing more deep than recognizing Israel's right to exist. That's the most deep thought of all...I can't think of anything more deep than that" Washington D.C. March 13, 2002.

"I understand that the unrest in the Middle East creates unrest throughout the region" Washington D.C. March 13, 2002.

"Brie and cheese"--Taunting a reporter who recently spent time on the West Coast, Crawford, TX Aug 23, 2001

"There's a lot of people in the Middle East who are desirous to get into the Mitchell process. And--but first things first. The--these terrorist acts and, you know, the responses have got to end in order for us to get a framework--the groundwork--not framework, the groundwork to discuss a framework for peace, to lay the--all right." Referring to former Sen George Mitchell's report on Middle East peace, Crawford, TX Aug 13, 2001.

"My administration has been calling upon all the leaders in the--in the Middle East to do everything they can to stop the violence, to tell the different parties involved that peace will never happen." Crawford, TX, Aug 13, 2001.

"Well, it's an unimaginable honor to be the president during the Fourth of July of this country. It means what these words say, for starters. The great inalienable rights of our country. We're blessed with such values in America. And I--it's--I'm a proud man to be the nation based upon such wonderful values" Visiting the Jefferson Memorial, Washington D.C. July 2, 2001.

"We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease" Gothenburg, Sweden, June 14, 2001.

"It's very important for folks to understand that when there's more trade, there's more commerce." Quebec City, Canada, April 21, 2001

"I also have picked a secretary for Housing and Human Development. Mel Martinez from the state of Florida." Austin, Texas, Dec. 20, 2000.

"They misunderestimated me". Bentonville Arkansas, Nov 6, 2000.

Countless more of these examples exist. It's downright embarrasing to have a President who appears so challenged with the English language. Maybe if he was more interested in public policy and less about weighlifting, jogging, vacations at Camp David and Crawford, and the Texas Rangers he wouldn't sound so dumb.

Was his MBA issued by Sears & Roebuck? Just curious.
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I'm no great fan of Bush, but if I'm not mistaken, doesn't he speak fluent Spanish? It does take a certain measure of intelligence to speak two languages functionally.
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Given the combined liberal logic here (with notable exception of Melon), I guess Bono would be considered stupid too then. Why? Have you ever watched the man speak? Between rubbing his eyes and nose constantly, repeating the same old cliches from interview to interview and then the actual language / grammar he uses??? "Ummmm........ (insert cliche).....uh..... ammmm ....applying for the job.......ummmm......uhhhh....god is catholic........mmm.......uhhhhhh..."

Seriously, the guy (Bono) stutters waay wayyy waaaaaaaaaayyy more than President George W. Bush!!!

Now, are you same liberals ashamed of Bono? No, it's okay if he speaks like what you consider to be an idiot. However, if he were a republican president I bet you would. Truth is, he is a very smart man who fucks up alot too.

And those of you who started this thread and contributed to the already beaten to death everyday in a new spin-off thread topic in a judgemental manner, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

The truth that none of you seem to be able to handle is as follows:

*Everything you and your fellow libs and dems try to stick at President Bush fails and you look foolish as usual.

*You are so pathetic in your attempts at slander that this type of crap and criticism is all you can find on our President.

*You are still wounded that your hero Mr. Clinton was caught in lies and scandals and was impeached. Thats right Impeached

*And you are still in denial that GEORGE W. BUSH WON THE 2000 PRESIDENTAL ELECTION

And can someone even tell me why this SPIN-OFF thread is even still open??

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Countless more of these examples exist. It's downright embarrasing to have a President who appears so challenged with the English language. Maybe if he was more interested in public policy and less about weighlifting, jogging, vacations at Camp David and Crawford, and the Texas Rangers he wouldn't sound so dumb.
Or maybe if we focused on the guy's policy, his opponents wouldn't appear so mean-spirited.

Honestly, I think it's part of his strategery to be misunderestimated. I think what you're knowing: "A who to the what now?" Well, you said what I heard me. STRATEGERY.
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Some of my favorite "Bushisms" :

"This is a nation that loves our freedom, loves our country" Washington D.C. May 17, 2003

so dumb.

Was his MBA issued by Sears & Roebuck? Just curious.
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2003?
Where DID YOU get your degree?
Box of CrackerJacks?

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Very good catch Diamond, thats okay for them to make mistakes and not be called stupid though!!!!!!!!

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Wow, I got no love for defending Bush.

I'll remember *that*, FYM Conservative Corps.
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I'm no great fan of Bush, but if I'm not mistaken, doesn't he speak fluent Spanish? It does take a certain measure of intelligence to speak two languages functionally.
His Spanish is not exactly fluent. But I think is good enough.

When he meets President Fox (another with a long story of dumb comments) Bush always try to adress our media in spanish, and it always end in some funny expressions, making everyone laugh, at the point that our media think he is a funny guy.
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Wow, I got no love for defending Bush.

I'll remember *that*, FYM Conservative Corps.
Hey.
I like your openess, seriously..

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LMAO!

Excellent catch, Diamond.
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Wow, I got no love for defending Bush.

I'll remember *that*, FYM Conservative Corps.
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Speaking fo all 7 of the Conservatives here, we appreciate your defense, just as we appreciate all types of Defense

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Im glad that GW's THINKING and HEART has NO BOUNDRIES easily leaping over Man's misconstrued INTERPRETATION of what is Polictallly correct...
GW is the man regardless if u get it or not..
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