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Old 10-03-2003, 02:35 PM   #1
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Drug Rush?

It goes from bad to worse for Rush. Poor thing...



Talk-radio titan Rush Limbaugh is being investigated for allegedly buying thousands of addictive painkillers from a black-market drug ring.
The moralizing motormouth was turned in by his former housekeeper - who says she was Limbaugh's pill supplier for four years.
Wilma Cline, 42, says Limbaugh was hooked on the potent prescription drugs OxyContin, Lorcet and hydrocodone - and went through detox twice.
"There were times when I worried," Cline told the National Enquirer, which broke the story in an edition being published today. "All these pills are enough to kill an elephant - never mind a man."
Cline could not be reached for further comment yesterday, but her lawyer, Ed Shohat of Miami, said his client "stands behind the story."

The Daily News independently confirmed that Limbaugh is under investigation.

His lawyers, Jerry Fox and Dan Zachary, refused to comment on the accusations and said any "medical information" about him was private and not newsworthy.

They said Limbaugh - who has a top-rated syndicated radio show but resigned early today from a weekly ESPN football segment amid criticism of racial comments about Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb - was traveling and had no comment.

The Palm Beach County state attorney's office, which is running the probe, said it could not confirm or deny the allegations.

Scoring in parking lot

Cline told the Enquirer she went to prosecutors with information about Limbaugh and others after four years of drug deals that included clandestine handoffs in a Denny's parking lot.

She said she wore a wire during her last two deliveries to the conservative commentator and gave the tapes to authorities.

She also gave the Enquirer a ledger documenting how many pills she claimed to have bought for him - 4,350 in one 47-day period - and E-mails she claimed Limbaugh sent her.

In one missive, Limbaugh pushed Cline to get more "little blues" - code for OxyContin, the powerful narcotic nicknamed hillbilly heroin, she said.

"You know how this stuff works ... the more you get used to, the more it takes," the May 2002 E-mail reads. "But I will try and cut down to help out."

The account Cline gave the Enquirer is that she became Limbaugh's drug connection in 1998, nine months after taking a housekeeping job at his Palm Beach mansion.

It started after her husband, David, hurt himself in a fall, and Limbaugh asked how he was.

"He asked me casually, 'Is he getting any pain medication?' I said, 'Yes - he's had surgery, and the doctor gave him hydro-codone 750,'" Cline said. "To my astonishment, he said, 'Can you spare a couple of them?'"

Husband's pills

Cline said she gave Limbaugh 10 pills the next day and agreed to give him 30 of her husband's pills each month. When the doctor stopped renewing the prescription in early 1999, Limbaugh allegedly went ballistic.

"His tone was nasty and bullying. He said, 'I don't care how or what you do, but you'd better - better! - get me some more,'" Cline said.

The housekeeper said she found a new supplier and arranged to hide Limbaugh's stashes under his mattress so his wife, Marta, wouldn't find them.

After several months, Limbaugh told her he was going to New York for detox and didn't need any more pills, Cline said.

But a month later, he said his left ear was hurting and asked her for hydrocodone, followed by an order for OxyContin.

Limbaugh, 52, suffered from autoimmune ear disease, a condition that left him deaf and had to be corrected with cochlear implant surgery two years ago.

Cline said she continued to make deliveries to Limbaugh even after she quit as his housekeeper in July 2001 - but he became increasingly paranoid, even patting her down for recording devices, she said.

In June 2002, Limbaugh told her he was going to New York for detox a second time.

After he returned, "I went to talk to him, and he cried a little bit," she said. "He told me that if it ever got out, he would be ruined."

She claimed that a lawyer for Limbaugh gave her a payoff - $80,000 he owed her, plus another $120,000 - and asked her to destroy the computer that contained the E-mail records.

Soon after, Cline and her husband retained Shohat and contacted prosecutors.

Feeling no pain

The drugs Rush Limbaugh is accused of abusing are legal only with a doctor's prescription. All are habit-forming.

- Hydrocodone

Anti-cough agent and painkiller similar to morphine. Side effects include anxiety, poor mental performance, emotional dependence, drowsiness, mood changes, difficulty breathing and itchiness.

- Lorcet

Brand name for the combination of Tylenol and hydrocodone, prescribed for moderate to severe pain. Side effects include dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, decreased appetite, dizziness, tiredness, muscle twitches, sweating and itching.

- OxyContin

Potent time-release medication for relief of moderate to severe pain, known as hillbilly heroin because of black-market popularity in some rural areas. Side effects include drowsiness, dizziness, sweating, muscle twitches and decreased sex drive. A large dose can be fatal. Originally published on October 2, 2003




Innocent till proven guilty but Rush once said that all drugs sellers, pushers, users should all be sent up the river! People who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones!
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Old 10-03-2003, 02:41 PM   #2
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Personally I don't like seeing stories about "celebrities" private lives all over the frontpages of the newspapers, but I hope if this story is true it will encourage him to rethink some of his harsh comments about people who use drugs. Assuming the story is accurate, I hope he manages to overcome his addiction.
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I can't stand the guy, but wouldn't wish a drug addiction on anyone. Hope that if it's true, he gets help and gets over it.
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But if he broke a law, he should be prosecuted.
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Drug addiction can affect anyone, he know that now. It's too bad that he couldn't stop himself from being a hypocrite as well.
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This man has been spewing hate and bigotry for at least 2 decades now and I really wish I could accurately quote some of the venom he directed towards Hillary Clinton and "women like her". I watched him some years ago before he got banished to the 4am time slot on tv. He was so dangerous with his words and I remember reading that some threats made aganist the administration at the time were directly attributed to his ability to incite people to do harm aganist the Clintons. I watched him simply because I didn't want to misjudge anyone I had not actually watched or listened too. I didn't misjudge him. He hates women as well as minorities. He has obviously been doing drugs for sometime, as well. You don't just start out taking the amount of drugs he's reported to have purchased. This is not to say I believe anything the enquirer has to report, but It explaines alot about his rantings. Even though I don't wish anything on him, he's brought all this on himself and he can't talk his way out of it. Or maybe he can since the right lawyer can probably get him out of this. Purchasing the drugs doesn't have the same penalties as selling them.
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Drug addiction can affect anyone, he know that now. It's too bad that he couldn't stop himself from being a hypocrite as well.
Innocent until proven guilty? In this country?


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This man has been spewing hate and bigotry for at least 2 decades now and I really wish I could accurately quote some of the venom he directed towards Hillary Clinton and "women like her". I watched him some years ago before he got banished to the 4am time slot on tv. He was so dangerous with his words and I remember reading that some threats made aganist the administration at the time were directly attributed to his ability to incite people to do harm aganist the Clintons.
A claim the Admistration itself made, but no one ever substantiated it.


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I watched him simply because I didn't want to misjudge anyone I had not actually watched or listened too. I didn't misjudge him. He hates women as well as minorities.
Explain, then, his admiration for Margaret Thatcher (a woman), Clarence Thomas (a black), and Condi Rice (a black woman).

Clarence Thomas also performed Rush's wedding ceremony, and one of Rush's substitute hosts is the economist Walter E. Williams, a man who also happens to be black.

Is it not possible that his dislike of Hillary Clinton and Jesse Jackson have more to do with their politics than with their sex or race?

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He has obviously been doing drugs for sometime, as well.
No, it's not obvious, as he is quite astute and cogent in his radio show, a show that airs live five days a week, three hours a day. The performance is often "televised" in an Internet broadcast, and the performance typically involves a half-dozen extemporaneous monologues.

What would make it obvious? Is conservatism so irrational that drug use is the only explanation for people to adhere to it?

For you to say it's "obvious"... seriously, are you on drugs?

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You don't just start out taking the amount of drugs he's reported to have purchased. This is not to say I believe anything the enquirer has to report, but It explaines alot about his rantings.
You don't believe it, but "he has obviously been doing drugs for sometime, as well."

Memory loss may be a sign of an addiction problem, and recognizing you have a problem is the first step on the road to recovery.

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Excellent points Mr. Black
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Innocent until proven guilty? In this country?
And certainly not on FOX News.

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Originally posted by Lewis Black
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Innocent until proven guilty? In this country?
I don't believe he has been arrested and locked up or fined.
(unlike hundreds of people this admin. has treated guilty with all rights negated, that Rush supports)
If you are talking about the 'Court of Public opinion, well Rush has all but declared himself the Chief Justice and Supreme Being of that court. He has no problem condemning in that Court.




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Explain, then, his admiration for Margaret Thatcher (a woman), Clarence Thomas (a black), and Condi Rice (a black woman).

Clarence Thomas also performed Rush's wedding ceremony, and one of Rush's substitute hosts is the economist Walter E. Williams, a man who also happens to be black.
This is the weakest of arguments, when you resort to this it is pretty much is a concession of the merits of the argument.
Slave owners had great affection for some of their slaves and even fathered children with them, some even remembered slaves in their wills, therefore they are not racists.

Ted Bundy loved his mother and bought her flowers and she was a woman. How can you say Bundy hated women?

Bill Clinton met with 100 single female alone and never did anything inappropriate. How can you say he is a philanderer? I think you get the point.
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No, it's not obvious, as he is quite astute and cogent in his radio show, a show that airs live five days a week, three hours a day. The performance is often "televised" in an Internet broadcast, and the performance typically involves a half-dozen extemporaneous monologues.
I had thought about doing a thread "Compassion for Rush" I do have compassion for him. When he was struck deaf I did feel sorry for him, as a person. I wish ill to no person. If the stories are correct his hearing loss is a result of extreme abuse of heavy-duty pain drugs. I remember listening to him talk about his hearing loss. He said they did not know why it happened. If the information is right, he knew. If he lied, I still have compassion for him and hopes he gets his life straighten out.
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deep, in addition to the blacks and women that he supports, Rush's beliefs are also inconsistent with racism and sexism, as he doesn't believe that anyone should be judged by skin color or sex.

If any mainstream political position today is racist, it is support for affirmative action, which insists that people be judged by skin color and implies that blacks aren't capable of earning anything on their own. Rush opposes affirmative action.

Rush's friends and his beliefs discredit the claim that he's a bigot. What more could be required?

The only possibly legitimate complaint is some of Rush's humor. But if we're going to be consistent in calling Rush a bigot for that, then a pretty great number of stand-up comics of all races and both sexes must also be bigots.

In comparison to what you'll here on Comedy Central, Rush -- particularly in the last few years -- is as harmless as a kitten.

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So Condi Rice and Colin Powell are racists.
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You must obviously listen to a different Rush than I have.
He is constantly spewing hate on the air. He has demeaned women for years as well as minorities. A few exceptions don't make the rule. The people you listed even support his bigotry.
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With all due respect, Lewis, I just base my opinion on nothing more than what I heard come from his mouth on his show those years ago. I can't explain any "admiration's" he claim's for the people you mentioned, because I haven't listened to anything he's had to say in the last 5 or so year's. I really try to distance myself from negative and hate. This type of "talk" doesn't influence me or help enlighten me so I "leave it behind", if you will. This includes like minded people I have known personally. I don't subscribe to the notion of "if you can't beat them join them" I just don't believe he's changed from the hate mongering I heard coming from him in the past. If so, I stand corrected. But, I don't think so.
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