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Old 03-02-2007, 04:05 PM   #226
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I was against the "don't ask, don't tell policy" then, and I am still against it. I don't want it "lifted" so that gays can serve openly - I don't want it in place at all because of the points I have already made.
I was watching Perry Mason while eating lunch, and an ad came on for the Army. I thought of a perfect solution: Have a crawl under recruiting ads stating something to this effect: Straights only need apply.

Then at recruiting offices, reiterate; post a sign over the door that says Straights Only. That'll keep things clear. I suspect that somewhere in the state storerooms of Alabama and Mississippi there are old signs just like it. They'll need some slight modifications, but it's just a little paint.
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I was watching Perry Mason while eating lunch, and an ad came on for the Army. I thought of a perfect solution: Have a crawl under recruiting ads stating something to this effect: Straights only need apply.

Might as well make it 'Straight Male Christians Only' that way AEON can shower in peace and we won't have any terrorist in our army.
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i wonder ... should we separate out Jews and Christians from showering together? after all, the Jews are circumsized, and what happens if a good, foreskinned Christian male is in the locker room, sees the naked head of a swinging penis, and is suddenly reminded of those that killed Christ? what would that to do troop morale? would you like to cuddle with the killers of Christ in the middle of a cold desert night?

think about it.
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I was against the "don't ask, don't tell policy" then, and I am still against it. I don't want it "lifted" so that gays can serve openly - I don't want it in place at all because of the points I have already made.
thank you. that is closer, but it still does not address my point about your "sexual tension" factor. obviously if gays are serving now, and there isn't a problem with sexual tension as it stands...then what is the big deal?
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think about it.
Well not only that but if you're cuddling and god decides to do some smiting at that exact moment you could get caught in the crossfire...

We might as well make it "God's Army".
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you know, thinking about it, the US army hasn't been effective of late. can't win land wars in Asia, can't occupy an Arab country ... it must be the gays, they're killing morale.
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This made me laugh.
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oh, and for the record, i like AEON. i think he's got a sense of humor and i admire the willingness to take an unpopular stand on social issues, and it's usually done with good cheer.
Irvine, I like you too. You have helped me understand quite a bit. I talk about you to my wife. My wife agrees with SOME of your posts (and sometimes I do too).

My wife is the unfortunate recipient of much of my social commentary. She agrees most of the time, but not all of it. And she has been known to say "What would Irvine say to that?"

I tend to seperate ideas from people. I am always searching for the "perfect" system or organization. While I am not a perfectionist, when it comes to theories - I enjoy discussing what would make something "Ideal" instead of "workable"or "fair."

I know that this can hurt people's feelings. However, I still think it is worth discussing.

Anyway, I'm off to drill for the weekend. It's sunny so there will be no "spooning" in the foxholes

Yolland, I don't have time to respond to your excellent post. I do understand what Irvine is saying, I just don't agree. I will explain in more detail after the weekend if this thread doesn't get locked.
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Might as well make it 'Straight Male Christians Only' that way AEON can shower in peace and we won't have any terrorist in our army.
That was funny.
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I enjoy discussing what would make something "Ideal" instead of ..."fair."

Ideal and fair are two different concepts for you. Nice.
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I tend to seperate ideas from people. I am always searching for the "perfect" system or organization. While I am not a perfectionist, when it comes to theories - I enjoy discussing what would make something "Ideal" instead of "workable"or "fair."

In this case who is this ideal for? You, the country, homophobes?

What would seem ideal to me is having the best soldiers who are willing and able to do the job.

Some guy worried about sexual tension isn't the ideal soldier in my mind. Any person who doesn't know the time and place, isn't ideal. Period.
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Anyway, I'm off to drill for the weekend.



am I the only one with a dirty mind here?
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I think, this don't ask, don't tell makes it more interesting, and exciting.

Think of it, if the gays were to be open about it, everyone would know who it is.
Now that no one tells you, everybody has to guess who in the unit might be the gay (at least the possibility of having a gay in the unit should be great enough).

And when they are due with their military time the gay one can admit it.
Might make for some great surprise at times


I think this reception for gays would change pretty soon when laws were changed. Now that no one really "knows" how it would be like many people can't think of having a gay in the rows. But soon after they opened up, it would become normal with most.
There are always people that would remain homophobe, or just intolerant, or just feel uncomfortable (I wouldn't condemn everybody right away for that). But the majority would see that there is nothing special.
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Some guy worried about sexual tension isn't the ideal soldier in my mind. Any person who doesn't know the time and place, isn't ideal. Period.
Bingo.
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