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Old 03-02-2007, 02:47 PM   #196
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You know if I was defending this country I would be happy to have anyone who was willing and able to do the job next to me in the trenches, regardless of color, sex, orientation, religion, etc...

That's life.

The one thing I've noticed in life is that when facing incredibly intense, strenguous, difficult times together these things don't matter. No one has a religion, no one has an orientation, no one is attractive or ugly, they often don't even have a face; they are just my fellow human.

It's too bad that doesn't remain true for everyone, especially those who call themselves compassionate or loving.
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:49 PM   #197
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What? That doesn't even make sense.

Does it not have a defintion?
Does Bigot have a definition? yes it does.

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noun a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
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[French, from Old French.]


Word History: Bigots may have more in common with God than one might think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused to kiss the foot of the French king Charles III, uttering the phrase bi got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our expression by God. Although this story is almost surely apocryphal, it is true that bigot was used by the French as a term of abuse for the Normans, but not in a religious sense. Later, however, the word, or very possibly a homonym, was used abusively in French for the Beguines, members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood. From the 15th century on Old French bigot meant "an excessively devoted or hypocritical person." Bigot is first recorded in English in 1598 with the sense "a superstitious hypocrite."
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All you've talked about is how you think gays should not be allowed in the military. That is not the topic of this thread. It is about lifting the "don't ask don't tell" policy, hence the subject line. You've neglected that issue entirely and seriously derailed this thread to ruffle feathers. I'm trying to bring this back to the topic at hand.
I was against the "don't ask, don't tell policy" then, and I am still against it. I don't want it "lifted" so that gays can serve openly - I don't want it in place at all because of the points I have already made.
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Does Bigot have a definition? yes it does.


Ok, now you've defined it, where is your issue with using it?
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Why should we label someone with a word. I mean we are against labeling black people as N____, white people as honkey or white devils, so why use a word to label people, even bigot? Why not just ignore them or forgive them and just continue with your lives?
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You may not agree with my answer, but it an answer.


than can you answer why it's more important that we remove the possibility of you ever being in a foxhole with a fag than it is to have several dozen highly competent fluent-in-Arabic translators and intelligence analysts?

because that's what's going on here. your inability to get beyond "gay" is costing us valuable intelligence analysts.
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Aeon. Sorry to say but I wouldn't care if the dude next to me in the foxhole was gay. As long as he convered me while in combat and could translate arabic it's fine by me.
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Why should we label someone with a word. I mean we are against labeling black people as N____, white people as honkey or white devils, so why use a word to label people, even bigot? Why not just ignore them or forgive them and just continue with your lives?
We use labels all the time, conservative, liberal, etc. If someone fits into that definition then why not use that label?

No one fits into the label nigger.
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No one fits into the label nigger.
Tell that to the KKK.

"He who has not sinned cast the first stone"---- So if your completly innocent of anything cast there words up Aeon if you have done nothing wrong or said anything wrong.
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Tell that to the KKK.
There opinion is not legitimate to me.

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"He who has not sinned cast the first stone"---- So if your completly innocent of anything cast there words up Aeon if you have done nothing wrong or said anything wrong.
I'm not judging. Just like I wouldn't be judging if I called someone a liberal or conservative.
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Yes, it's still judging. Why because what I hear people call conservatives are, warmongers, homophobes, anti-choice etc... It's called personal opinion and choice people.

For Liberals I hear: Hippie, pro-choice baby killers, pro-homosexuality, anti-american, pro-communist or socialist.

do you get what I am saying?
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It's not labelling someone with a word. It's defining someone with a word.
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For the record: Hippies aren't anti-American. They are pro-peace. And we all know there's nothing wrong with peace.
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Do you believe Aeon has every right to his opinion and belief? Do you not like him now because of it?
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do you get what I am saying?
No. Those are all opinions.

I'm talking strictly dictionary definitions!!!
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