maude
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Dreadsox said:Nice posts Maude.
Thanks!
Dreadsox said:Nice posts Maude.
BonoVoxSupastar said:I was speaking in general. And I was speaking from the perspective of someone who looks up to this person, which I don't. If I'm one that really looks up to this person and idolize this person and he's preaching one thing and then does the other and gets away with it. Then I may be inclined to believe "well it was good enough for him." It doesn't change the truth but it changes the strength of the statement. Just like in your preacher example. If someone in his congregation is confronted with the situation where they are tempted to kill, they may be inclined to think "well Father so and so did it and he's a man of the cloth, maybe just this once." It gives a small grain of justification, especially to those who really look up to the person.
I'm not saying this is right, but it's human nature.
elfyx said:Is Rush hypocritical? Yes. Do I think his blanket statements about drugs are correct? No. And yes, I CAN honestly and logically argue that they're not.
womanfish said:When Jerry Garcia died, Rush's words about him were this: "He's just another dead doper." So any lack of compassion that people feel for him is deserved IMO.
womanfish said:When Jerry Garcia died, Rush's words about him were this: "He's just another dead doper."
maude said:
No, you evidently don't.
Let's take a look at a simplistic example.
A preacher tells his congregation that murder is wrong.
This same preacher then goes and kills his wife. Is he a hypocrite? Yes. Does that negate the truthfullness of his statement that murder is wrong? Certaintly not.
Rush made statments that more or less said that drug abuse is a very bad thing. We now find that Rush has been abusing drugs. Is he a hypocrite? Yes. Does that negate the truthfullness of his statement that drug abuse is a very bad thing? Can you honestly and logically say that it does?
bonoman said:
No, see he is a hypocrite for the simple fact that he preached about drugs then was caught doing himself. I dont care what Rush has to say about drugs. He doesnt even come to mind when thinking about people that would know the real problems with drugs. He is a super rich white american, how does he compare to a a person in the slums living on the streets deathly addicted.
What he has to say doesnt intresest me, because he is in a different realm as other people. What he said isnt right. If you'd like to argue that point then i'd love to.
maude said:
As I've said before, I'm not a fan of Rush, and don't even listen to his program. Yes, apparantly he has said some horrible things, and I agree that what he said about Jerry Garcia's death was a terribly offensive and thoughtless remark to make.
I get the feeling that some here seem to think I'm defending Rush, so allow me to attempt to make this perfectly clear. In my remarks I'm not defending all of Rush Limbaugh's actions, ideas, and remarks, only the first two quoted in Dreadsox's post. I am defending the idea that one's hypocritical actions does not change the truthfullness of one's words. Yes, I do agree with the first two quotes and I have a feeling that if they had come from someone else's mouth, oh let's say Bono for instance, most other people here would too. Now, by my claiming to agree with those quotes does not mean I agree with everything Rush has ever said or done.
bonoman said:Ya you've mentioned that you dont defend him or like him many times already i think everyone got that.
bonoman said:All i am saying is that when someone speaks to something that they have no real experience to then they usually are underqualified. I think Rush is hypocrticial in his actions and his words, i think that him saying what he is saying is wrong as he doesnt know the inner workings of poverty and drug use in poverty.