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Old 01-14-2005, 02:09 AM   #1
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Do you think The death penalty Is Right?

I Think it should be legal everywhere because people that kill do not deserve to live at all. If they took a life then its only right that The other person is killed.
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Old 01-14-2005, 02:27 AM   #2
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Doesn't solve squat, death is an easy escape - being denied freedom for decades is true punishment. This is not to say that I have any problem if a criminal is killed when they cannot be captured without undue risk to law enforcement or citizens. Once captured and neutralised there is rarely any justification to kill them but one can always be pushed to extreme situations which occasionally pop up.
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Old 01-14-2005, 04:47 AM   #3
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no one deserves to be killed. no matter what theyve done.
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death penalty should be used very very rarely.

death penalty should be NEVER USED for any crime that doesnt directly involve MURDER like betrayal, possesion/use of drug, rape...etc etc

Even with murder or multiple murder cases, it should be used VERY VERY VERY rarely.. IF AT ALL
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For murders, yes.
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Old 01-14-2005, 05:46 AM   #6
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I know a guy whose brother was murdered some years ago. Nevertheless he once said to me (unprompted) that he did not agree with the death penalty as there was always a chance - however slight - that they get the wrong person.

Having said that some crimes, such as child murders, are so appalling that the death penalty should be available - the problem is that some jurisdictions that have the death penalty apply it far too often in my view.
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Our justice system is ran by humans therefore flawed. Therefore the possibility of convicting the wrong person exists. Therefore I don't believe in it.

We are not the ones to decide who lives or dies out of "justice". I do not believe in eye for an eye.
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"for all who draw the sword will die by the sword"

Yes, the death penalty is an acceptable punishment.
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no one deserves to be killed. no matter what theyve done.
What about being unlucky enough to have been concieved in the belly of a woman who doesn't feel like accepting responsibility for a child?

The thing that tears the hell out of me on this is that the strongest abortion supporters are always the strongest death penalty opponents! It's so twisted I can't stand it. The unborn baby has done nothing wrong, the killer has. I am for the death penalty in EXTREME cases where someone has heartlessly and cruelly murdered someone, especially a child. I can't believe anyone would believe that a person who has tortured, raped, and killed young children, then mutilated the bodies deserves
to live!While I believe life is precious, once someone has heniously and purposely robbed another of their life, they no longer should be able to enjoy being alive, even eating, sleeping, reading, watching TV in prison. And don't give me the old 'they'll have a lot of time to think about what they did' line, look, they don't care, if they had a conscience they'd never have done it in the first place!

Here are some extreme examples that happened in VA that I followed closely on the news and was very upset by: a man kidnapped and molested a six year old boy, then beat him to death. Then he cut off his little penis and stuck it in his mouth and hung him in the closet like that with an electrical cord. My sister worked with the father of this boy, and she said he was so disturbed he would mix things up or just stop and start shaking. They never fired him because his story was so sad, but he was ruined for life. See the killer doesn't just take one life, they take the lives of those around the victim too.

In another case, same area of VA years later, an 11 year old girl was left at the skating rink after it closed because her mother's drunken boyfriend who was supposed to pick her up when she called passed out. The girl accepted a ride from a stranger who took her into the woods, tortured her and sexually abused her, then (assuming after she was dead, maybe not) he sliced off her little breast buds and put them in her hands. Her vagina was destroyed by broken branches used to rape her with. I'm also going to add that my nephew's girlfriend was in the same fifth grade class as this girl, and she still takes spells of crying to this day because of it and screams when she drives past the place in the woods where it happened. Image how the girl's family must feel. A fucker who did all that deserves to live? Please.

Oh and for the record I have had someone in my family murdered, a cousin who was a real estate agent was set up on a fake call and raped and stabbed repeatedly, her body tossed in a dumpster like yesterday's burger wrapper.

I'm sorry, both those fucking bastards deserve to die, and lethal injection is too good for them.
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please, please, please ... let's not turn this into an abortion thread (though i will add that it strikes me as hypocritical to be anti-choice and pro-death penalty).

anyway ... the death penalty strikes me as illogical and hypocritical (not, btw, morally wrong ... it's not a moral issue for me, the same way that the aforementioned issue that i'll not answer again is not a moral issue).

there's a Ghandi quote: "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

also, how do you propose to show that killing is wrong by killing someone?

it simply doesn't make any sense, but then again, i've never had anyone close to me murdered.
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Death shouldnt be meted out for most crimes anyway. And for those crimes which are so heinous - the death penalty isn't good enough anyway. Death 'is' the easy way out.

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Re: Do you think The death penalty Is Right?

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I Think it should be legal everywhere because people that kill do not deserve to live at all. If they took a life then its only right that The other person is killed.
The death penalty is institutionalized murder, takign one of humanit's worst character traits, the need for revenge, and making it legal.

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please, please, please ... let's not turn this into an abortion thread (though i will add that it strikes me as hypocritical to be anti-choice and pro-death penalty).

As I've said before, I will keep quiet on abortion, until someone mentions the the ignorant, sickening, hypocritical term anti-choice, that's what sets me off, and you did it so here goes! If you do not support every choice,you are anti choice, it's stupid. Stop trying to cover up what abortion really is with your comfy little terms. We are talking about murder here. Since you're for choice perhaps you agree with the choices the murderer made too!

As I explained in my last post, there is a difference between an innocent baby and a killer who has raped murdered tortured and mutilated people. They no longer deserve to live. I already explained that. I am not pro life, as I always say, I hate the terms pro and anti life and choice, it's pro and anti abortion. I am for the death penalty because scum who do the things I described in my last post do not even deserve the air they breathe or the food they eat, and to compare them to an innocent unborn child who has done nothing wrong makes my blood boil. And quite honestly, Irvine, the fact that you could value their lives more than a baby's makes me have a hard time respecting you as a human being.

If anyone had bothered to read my first post why would they even say this to me, I've already stated my position. I must run now before I get myself banned.
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i am totally going to ignore your post. just watch me.
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Old 01-14-2005, 06:59 AM   #15
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And that would probably be the best way to go about it - Irvine. (Thanks in advance).

U2Kitten - please calm down. No one wants the thread to be derailed, strong feelings notwithstanding, and no one wants to start calling people horrid things.

I won't close this thread, but if people don't calm down and debate is thrown out the window in the name of calling people 'sub-human' for their views, I shall.

Cool it.

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