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Old 05-22-2004, 02:52 PM   #121
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The French liked Jerry Lewis movies as well.
I wasn't aware all the judges at the Cannes film festival were French.
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Old 05-22-2004, 03:09 PM   #123
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I don't believe the Kerry/McCain talk. McCain is a Republican, and is supporting Bush. If I were advising Kerry, I'd tell him to pick Clark as a running mate.
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The French liked Jerry Lewis movies as well.
From the Boston Globe:
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/143/...eit_9_1:.shtml

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'Fahrenheit 9/11'' won the top award from sharply divided Cannes moviegoers, who found a solid crop of good movies among the 19 entries in the festival's main competition but no great ones that rose to front-runner status.

While ''Fahrenheit 9/11'' was well-received by Cannes audiences, many critics felt it was inferior to Moore's Academy Award-winning documentary ''Bowling for Columbine,'' which earned him a special prize at Cannes in 2002.

Some critics speculated that if ''Fahrenheit 9/11'' won the top prize, it would be more for the film's politics than its cinematic value.

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Quentin Tarantino headed the nine-member jury that handed out prizes in Cannes' main competition. The other jurors included actresses Kathleen Turner, Tilda Swinton and Emmanuelle Beart.
Yep, those are very French names.
(OK, Emmanuelle Bart actually is French)
BTW, the other five jurors were:
Edwidge Danticat (Haiti), Benot Poelvoorde (Belgium), Jerry Shatzberg (USA), Tsui Hark (Vietnam) and Peter Von Bagh (Finland).
Also very French...

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Old 05-22-2004, 05:11 PM   #125
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the french eat snails and are therefore wrong
then again, they play rugby instead of american football so they might be on to something

michael moore tends to press his own point of view and should therefore not be recognised as a documentary maker but as a comedian
then again, Bush makes me laugh more

it's all very difficult really

I shall ponder this some more
unless I would actually go and watch this documentary and realise that like 99.7% of the world population I don't really care
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Old 06-02-2004, 08:23 AM   #127
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It might be out in the US on June 25th
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Old 06-02-2004, 08:56 AM   #128
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it's difficult to separat your own point of view from "The objective truth" if this is the criteria for comedy than almost all newspapers are simply comedy.

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ps i still don't like moore
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I would like to remind people that, especially in a field dominated by postmodernism, all genre definitions are loosely enforced. All of them. But, even before postmodernism, there has been an unending debate as to what constitutes a documentary, and while one is more inclined to say that a documentary should be more "realist," Moore could also be a pioneer for the "formalist" documentary, because while it is not "realist" as a National Geographic Special, his films aren't fictional either. I personally believe that both can co-exist, as someone who has studied media extensively and likes the postmodern element within film/television production.

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Moore is reinventing propaganda as documentary
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LOL! All this "controversy" from Disney is just giving Moore free
publicity for his film. More people will want to check this out.
"The film Disney refused to release" coming soon to a theater
near you.
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LOL! All this "controversy" from Disney is just giving Moore free
publicity for his film. More people will want to check this out.
"The film Disney refused to release" coming soon to a theater
near you.
Give the man credit where credit is due.
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Sorry, Ray Bradbury, I don't think you have a case, but nice try.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...1_14&printer=1

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Ray Bradbury is demanding an apology from filmmaker Michael Moore (news) for lifting the title from his classic science-fiction novel "Fahrenheit 451" without permission and wants the new documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11" to be renamed.

"He didn't ask my permission," Bradbury, 83, told The Associated Press on Friday. "That's not his novel, that's not his title, so he shouldn't have done it."
With respect to Bradbury, I'm glad that he has been as gentlemanly about the issue as he has been, but, as far as I know, titles are not copyrightable. Hence, if I wanted to, I could create a movie called "Casablanca" that has absolutely nothing to do with the original film (none of the same script, characters, setting, etc.), and there's not a thing anyone could do about it. However, there's a second quotient in this issue: the fact that Moore could probably argue that his title falls under a parody, and I think that the humorous tone of his "documentary" would very likely muster any objective challenge.

Frankly, I wouldn't doubt that Bradbury might ultimately try and go to court, if the title isn't changed, but I also don't think he would win either.

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Sorry, Ray Bradbury, I don't think you have a case, but nice try.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...1_14&printer=1



With respect to Bradbury, I'm glad that he has been as gentlemanly about the issue as he has been, but, as far as I know, titles are not copyrightable. Hence, if I wanted to, I could create a movie called "Casablanca" that has absolutely nothing to do with the original film (none of the same script, characters, setting, etc.), and there's not a thing anyone could do about it. However, there's a second quotient in this issue: the fact that Moore could probably argue that his title falls under a parody, and I think that the humorous tone of his "documentary" would very likely muster any objective challenge.

Frankly, I wouldn't doubt that Bradbury might ultimately try and go to court, if the title isn't changed, but I also don't think he would win either.

Melon
while he has a point and has the right to be upset with mr. moore for having his book title associated with such a controversial movie, i'd have to agree that he doesn't have much of a case, legally speaking. frankly i think mr. bradbury is more upset over the fact that he planned on a new movie based on his original book, and now the title will be associated with moore's movie. so as usuall, it comes down to the almighty dollar.


did i just defend michael moore?
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