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Old 05-09-2004, 06:12 PM   #76
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I can understand you but i'd really be happy if you would continue posting here, i enjoy your opinions.

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Old 05-09-2004, 08:01 PM   #77
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I can understand you but i'd really be happy if you would continue posting here, i enjoy your opinions.

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I agree with this too. If everyone on the other side of the aisle walked out, what would we have to talk about.
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My question is, why did Moore make the movie with Disney to begin with? He knows their reputation. Why didn't he make the film independently? He could have EASILY raised enough dough from his wealthy liberal friends to shoot a doc! Bad move on his part.
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They showed it at Cannes..a couple of links

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...fahrenheit_911

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movi...ilm/index.html
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The French loved it - what a surprise
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I'm not going to "argue" for him (or with anyone here ), but I think, and maybe I'm wrong, that there were at least as many Americans there as French people. But then of course they're all the Hollywood liberal wackos

Here's another snippet from an article..

Moore, using a mocking soundtrack to great effect, shows members of the bin Laden family being flown out of the U.S. after September 11. Up surges the song: "I gotta get out of this place."


In Washington, Moore is shown on a bizarre recruiting drive.

He stops Congressmen in the street and asks if they might consider sending their children as soldiers to Iraq. "What do you think of that idea?" he asks before getting the brush-off.


The film shows the raw emotion of Lila Lipscomb, doubled up with grief outside the White House as she contemplates the death of her soldier son in Iraq.

In one of the most moving scenes, she reads out the last letter received from him before his death.

Telling how she collapses on hearing the news over the phone, she said: "Your flesh just aches. You're not supposed to bury your own son."
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michael moore is one of the few celebrities who i'd actually like to punch in the face.

the small tidbit about 9/11 you mentioned is already causing my insides to boil... but alas, i'll wait until i actually see the "documentary," and i use that term loosely, before passing judgement on it.
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Old 05-18-2004, 01:21 AM   #84
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My god, every friggin newspaper is running the cannes story along with the "fact" about disney not distributing the film because of political interests, THIS IS BS!
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The French loved it - what a surprise
I'm interested in what you mean by this nbc.
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I'm interested in what you mean by this nbc.
i believe i'll tackle that one...

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PARIS, France (CNN) -- Throughout the spring, and into this summer, a leading bestseller in France has not been some great work of French literature but a $17-dollar paperback called the "Horrifying Fraud."

The book casts doubt on the official version of the events of September 11, substituting an elaborate conspiracy concocted by America's military-industrial complex in order to increase U.S. military budgets.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/06/26/france.book/
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Here's what Roger Ebert said about the film:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/eb-fe...-cannes18.html

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But the film doesn't go for satirical humor the way Moore's "Roger & Me" and "Bowling for Columbine" did. Moore's narration is still often sarcastic, but frequently he lets his footage speak for itself.
And another review from Mary Corliss with "Time":

http://www.time.com/time/arts/articl...0.html?cnn=yes

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Moore is usually the front-and-center star of his own films. Here, his presence is mostly that of narrator and guiding force, though he does make a few piquant appearances. While chatting with Unger across the street from the Saudi embassy in Washington, he is approached and quizzed by Secret Service agents. Hearing from Rep. John Conyers that no member of Congress had read the complete Patriot Act before voting for it, he hires a Mister Softee truck and patrols downtown D.C. reading the act to members of Congress over a loudspeaker. Toward the end, he tries to get Congressmen to enlist their sons in the military. Surprise: no volunteers.
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OK, that Mr Softee thing is pretty funny..so is the Wolfowitz bit

Not to make light of the subject matter, because obviously there's absolutely nothing funny about that

"a man quizzed by the FBI for casually mentioning at his health club that he thought Bush was an “asshole”
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From the Hollywood Reporter

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Where "Roger & Me" and "Bowling for Columbine" were personal quests for truth, looking at a subject from different angles and talking to people polls apart in their points of view, Moore stays "on message" here from first shot to last. There is no debate, no analysis of facts or search for historical context. Moore simply wants to blame one man and his family for the situation in Iraq the United States now finds itself in.
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The French loved it - what a surprise
I wasn't aware that everyone at the Cannes film festival was French.
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