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Old 09-05-2002, 11:11 PM   #16
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i had every right to say what i just said.
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Old 09-05-2002, 11:19 PM   #17
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this is getting scary. i'm agreeing with deathbear a lot now!

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how many people died in ny, pa, and washington? 2-300 people, correct?

how many died in afghanistan as a result of allied bombing? 5000-6000...correct?

how many have died in iraq due to sanctions that OBVIOUSLY arent helping, cause if they WERE, then the us wouldnt have to worry about saddam gathering weapons of mass destruction and the need to remove him, then would they?!
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This is now FYM material... off it goes...
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Old 09-05-2002, 11:23 PM   #19
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Patriotic rock songs, yes I know one! It's called "Saya Anak Malaysia" (translated: I am a child of Malaysia) by some unknown Malaysian rock band. Here are the lyrics!

1953
1953

Bulan 5 aku dilahirkan
In May I was born

Di sebuah negeri yang diberi nama
In a state that was given the name

NEGERI SEMBILAN
Ne-ge-ri Sem-bi-laaan!

Selepas itu aku dibesarkan
after that I was brought up

Di NEGERI KELANTAN
in the state of Ke-lan-taaan!

Aku belajar di sekolah orang putih
I studied in a white man's school!

Dekat dengan Pasir Puteh
Near Pasir Puteh!

Saya Anak Malaysia ( 4X )
I'm a child of Malaysia (4x)

Lepas sekolah aku merayau
After school, I wandered

Negeri mat saleh aku merantau
In a white man's country I wandered

Tempat orang indah sekali
Places where the people were most wonderful

Tapi MALAYSIA dekat di hati
But Malaysia was close at heart!

Saya Anak Malaysia ( 4X )
I am a child of Malaysia! (4x)

Sampai masa aku pun balik
When it was time I returned

Tapi makweku nampak pelik
But my mother looked weird (??)

Dia kata nak jadi apa Aku kata itu Tuhan punya kuasa
He asked "what do you wanna be?" I replied "That's God's will"

Saya Anak Malaysia ( 4X )
I'm a child of Malaysia!! (4x)

Lemah lembut sopan santun
Graceful and polite

Sudah menjadi darah dagingku
It's become my flesh and blood

Walaupun aku nampaknya kutu
Although I look like a flea (???)

Aku hormat orang tuaku
I respect my old folks

Saya Anak Malaysia ( 4X )
I'm a child of Malaysia!!!!!!! (4x)

(Ulang 4 kali)
(Repeat 4 times)
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Old 09-05-2002, 11:32 PM   #20
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uh, i hope bubba can still respond to this thread...

or is that no longer possible?

*edited for using wrong name...such a strange mistake to make
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To be a patriot is a good thing , but to be a slave of dirty lies and disinformation is much worse case .

Sing about how good is your country , people , flag , soul etc is one and very good thing .
but to make cd's and fame on 9/11 theme and make money about it , compose songs with lyrics full of hate against different races , people and countries , that's not right .
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Old 09-05-2002, 11:46 PM   #22
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"New York, New York" by Ryan Adams...?
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uh, i hope bubba can still respond to this thread...

or is that no longer possible?
nope.
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Old 09-06-2002, 12:59 AM   #24
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I think patriotic songs or hymns were very useful in olden days when soldiers were forced to line up for field battles, fighting with swords, bayonets or muskets... but back then was intended to raise the spirits of men who were facing attrition and almost certain death -- this was not intended for selling records or for wide-spread propoganda, this was about trying to keep your troops going in the final hour, making them at least feel for a minute that they weren't dying for nothing
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Old 09-06-2002, 01:14 AM   #25
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That's hilarious!

The 'music' is just a cover up.. this thread is spewing politics.

Nice sig..
It might be now, but because of deathbear's impetus, not Bubba's.

It's a shame that this thread has now been taken away from Bubba.
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Old 09-06-2002, 01:29 AM   #26
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oh, im sorry speedracer.

btw, he contacted me via the messenger thing here, and all is all.

speedracer, again, do not start anything here with me, UNLESS you want to talk about the topic at hand.

you can question my opinions but do not question my intellect.
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Well, if this thread is censored, I may as well write a private message to Bubba.
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oh, im sorry speedracer.

btw, he contacted me via the messenger thing here, and all is all.

speedracer, again, do not start anything here with me, UNLESS you want to talk about the topic at hand.

you can question my opinions but do not question my intellect.
I wasn't trying to start anything with you here.

I questioned neither your opinions nor your intellect.

All I said was that your tirade resulted in the mods taking Bubba's thread away from him. Do you deny this?
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Old 09-06-2002, 11:01 AM   #29
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a few things...

do i think theres room in rock for pro war rock songs?

i wouldnt listen to it, and why would anyone else want to? would that make you feel good about listening to songs of anger directed at saving your fatherland and crushing all who appose it? the way you throw america and God together, everytime you post, (im not gonna lie and im not gonna hide how i feel) pisses me right off. God gives NOT ONE SHIT about stupid boundaries mere humans have layed out to divide each other.

why is this even a question? are you so possessed with war that this is all you think about? why arent you in the army or something?

the war on terrorism is a rediculous term. for one, the united states of america have inflicted far more "terror" on innocent people in afghanistan than everything that happened on 9/11.

how many people died in ny, pa, and washington? 3000 people, correct?

how many died in afghanistan as a result of allied bombing? 5000-6000...correct?

how many have died in iraq due to sanctions that OBVIOUSLY arent helping, cause if they WERE, then the us wouldnt have to worry about saddam gathering weapons of mass destruction and the need to remove him, then would they?!

ALLLLLL this leads to one thing: WHYYYYY SHOULD there even be pro-war songs at all?! who on earth would want to listen to a battle cry for vengeance?

if your such a good christian do you not believe that you should act as Christ would?

im sorry, i have just watched another war movie, and i simply cannot hack the thought of people wishing to create more chaos in an already chaotic world.

and one last thing...

who gave ANY country the right to decide who CAN and CANNOT bear weapons of mass destruction? who gave ANY country the right to decide which leader is capable of ruling a different land of people?
Bear-
-Why is it you lash out at Bubba?

Why is it you predictably put the blame on Americans?
-Osama is responisible for the deaths of his countrymen by his actions in our country.
You may have had an argument if we went to Afganistan unprovoked..we didnt.

Same w Saddam
-Heres a fellow who beheads members of his own family
-Butchers his own ppl w nerve gas
-Has his countrymen killed at will, those that oppose him..

but ITS OK for him to have nukes..riiiiiiigt

and you..
go around making threads drawing correlations between Bush/Hitler..

Bear, where is your head?
Your fasination w Nazis and WWII also is odd.
Many of us are here are concerned for you Bear..

Leave Bubba alone

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Well, Bear, I am not concerned...

Hey Diamond! Why are you concerned?

Ummm... and what´s your opinion on the theme of this thread?

And can someone tell me why Bubba hasn´t answered my PM yet?
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