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Old 07-15-2006, 01:16 AM   #76
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Alot of christian scientists believe that there simply weren't as many animal breeds back then. They claim that maybe after they were released from the ark they repopulated the earth over time and due to different enviromental incluences evolved into new "breeds". Now, I'm not talking about a fish evolving into a dog, but maybe something more like a leopard evolving into a jaguar or something similar.

Just throwing that out there. I've never looked into it really.
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Oh no!!! Christians supporting evolution?

We better be careful, next thing we know Genesis may just be a parable!!!
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maybe the guy
that wrote the story down
left out the part about suspended animation

G-d has his ways of getting things done
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For the sake of discussion, how much space would it require Noah to save the land species of the animals of the Mesopotamia region?

Yes, I am a local flood guy.
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For the sake of discussion, how much space would it require Noah to save the land species of the animals of the Mesopotamia region?

Yes, I am a local flood guy.
Maybe Noah used some whales to transport some animals as well. Maybe the talking snakes got left behind.

Forget the dinosaurs, they were all drowned, the whole species, because they were bigger than the whales. And you cant let a pteryodactyl (sp?) fly around in a whale, indigestion problems for sure.
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Alot of christian scientists believe that there simply weren't as many animal breeds back then. They claim that maybe after they were released from the ark they repopulated the earth over time and due to different enviromental incluences evolved into new "breeds". Now, I'm not talking about a fish evolving into a dog, but maybe something more like a leopard evolving into a jaguar or something similar.

Just throwing that out there. I've never looked into it really.
Well first off your timescale is too short for the diversification of the animals, the flood couldn't have been more than a few thousand years ago.

Secondly Fish to Dog is really like

Fish to Lobe Finned Fish to Lung Bearing Lobe Finned Fish to Amphibious Tetrapod to Mammal Like Reptile to Shrew Like Protomammal to Larger Carnivorous Mammal to Wolf Like Mammal to Domesticated Dog Like Mammal.

Lots of small changes over vast stretches of time, once you accept that small hertitable variation is possible then by virtue of time large scale change becomes inevitable.

Thirdly the number of species on the Earth today is a lot but all through history (as in geological history) there have been vast numbers of species. Hell before the Late Jurassic there werent even any angiosperms. Those Christian Scientists really need to get their shit together.
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Because it is only very, very, very, very rarely that fantasy stories ever turn out to be true and I don't think that two of every kind would produce enough genetic diversity once they repopulate the world.

Quite simply we would have the genetic marks of this even left on every animal that was placed upon the arc.

We would also expect to have found the bodies and massive flood deposits all at the same time but we don't have them. And heres a kicker where did the monotremes come from? The Echidna and Platypus - they appear in Australia did Noah deliver them here?
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1 Corinthians 1:19-20

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For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the learning of the learned I will set aside."
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Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish?
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Maybe Noah used some whales to transport some animals as well. Maybe the talking snakes got left behind.

Forget the dinosaurs, they were all drowned, the whole species, because they were bigger than the whales. And you cant let a pteryodactyl (sp?) fly around in a whale, indigestion problems for sure.
Well, in a local flood the whales would not have been involved. I also think dinosaurs became extinct about 65 million years ago. They were long gone.
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Man, that would be cool to ride on a whale.
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Man, that would be cool to ride on a whale.
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Bwahahahaha!
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1 Corinthians 1:19-20

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For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the learning of the learned I will set aside."
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Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish?
Seriously diamond, this is your counter argument?

I guess we should all be ignorant and unlearnt
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