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Old 06-30-2006, 03:39 PM   #16
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I heard that the reason they believe it to be the ark is that they found a plank of wood with the words: 'Noah and Na'amah 4 eva' carved in it.
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Old 06-30-2006, 03:42 PM   #17
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That's too bad because it's absolutely impossible.
How can it be impossible to believe that things of that nature could have happened. I mean if you believe in God, then anything is possible right???
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How can it be impossible to believe that things of that nature could have happened. I mean if you believe in God, then anything is possible right???
Read the Epic of Gilgamesh. The flood narrative in the Bible is the same story, except whoever wrote the Bible's version added a moral twist and decided to specify the dimensions of the ark. There may have been a period of rain and some flooding, but it probably didn't happen, but that doesn't matter because it's not the point of the narrative.
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Well yes the bible has these disney type stories. I dont believe the entire world was flooded just a region of the world.
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Well yes the bible has these disney type stories. I dont believe the entire world was flooded just a region of the world.
Well then why do you question me? You don't think it's possible either.
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Well Jesus taught the Flood and Noah were real:

Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the Ark. Then the Flood came and destroyed them all.’ (Luke 17:26–27)
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Well Jesus taught the Flood and Noah were real:

Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the Ark. Then the Flood came and destroyed them all.’ (Luke 17:26–27)
Jesus was very fond of parables.
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Well Jesus taught the Flood and Noah were real:

Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the Ark. Then the Flood came and destroyed them all.’ (Luke 17:26–27)
How does that confirm that it was real? It only confirms that Jesus supported the allegorical lesson learned through the flood narrative.
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How does that confirm that it was real? It only confirms that Jesus supported the allegorical lesson learned through the flood narrative.
That's your interpertation.

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Read the Epic of Gilgamesh. The flood narrative in the Bible is the same story, except whoever wrote the Bible's version added a moral twist and decided to specify the dimensions of the ark. There may have been a period of rain and some flooding, but it probably didn't happen, but that doesn't matter because it's not the point of the narrative.
Genesis is older
It makes more sense that Genesis was the original and the pagan myths arose as distortions of that original account. While Moses lived long after the event, he probably acted as the editor of far older sources.9 For example, Genesis 10:19 gives matter-of-fact directions, ‘as you go toward Sodom and Gomorrah and Admah and Zeboiim’. These were the cities of the plain God destroyed for their extreme wickedness 500 years before Moses. Yet Genesis gives directions at a time when they were well-known landmarks, not buried under the Dead Sea.

It is common to make legends out of historical events, but not history from legends. The liberals also commonly assert that monotheism is a late evolutionary religious development. The Bible teaches that mankind was originally monotheistic. Archaeological evidence suggests the same, indicating that only later did mankind degenerate into idolatrous pantheism.10

For instance, in Genesis, God’s judgment is just, he is patient with mankind for 120 years (Genesis 6:3), shows mercy to Noah, and is sovereign. Conversely, the gods in the Gilgamesh Epic are capricious and squabbling, cower at the Flood and are famished without humans to feed them sacrifices. That is, the human writers of the Gilgamesh Epic rewrote the true account, and made their gods in their own image.

The whole Gilgamesh-derivation theory is based on the discredited Documentary Hypothesis.9 This assumes that the Pentateuch was compiled by priests during the Babylonian Exile in the 6th century BC. But the internal evidence shows no sign of this, and every sign of being written for people who had just come out of Egypt. The Eurocentric inventors of the Documentary Hypothesis, such as Julius Wellhausen, thought that writing hadn’t been invented by Moses’ time. But many archaeological discoveries of ancient writing show that this is ludicrous.
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Interesting, but I still believe the opposite. Nice copy-and-paste. I'm not about to challege everything I've been taught based on a few .com articles.
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I don't take the story of Noah's ark literally. I've read the Gilgamesh story as well, they are very similar.
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And Genesis was written before this Gilamesh story.

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What I find particularly interesting is that this "explorer's" team doesn't appear to have included any archaeologists...just lawyers, businessmen, and "ministry leaders".

The little evidence presented in this article isn't enough to make any kind of a conclusion one way or the other from a scientific standpoint...and that's coming from someone who has studied archaeology in the Near/Middle East for many years. That may be the fault of the article's author, but in my experience, it often has as much to do with the lack of any real evidence to begin with. If this really is Noah's Ark, there will be other supporting evidence from an archaeological standpoint.
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I heard that the reason they believe it to be the ark is that they found a plank of wood with the words: 'Noah and Na'amah 4 eva' carved in it.

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