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Old 11-10-2005, 01:43 PM   #16
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well, since our Mission was Accomplished and there is no more war, i don't see the necessity of the forum. but my problems with that forum have been registered and disagreed with.
I agree. The war forum is useless.
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however, it remains to be see if WP was used solely a battlefield illumination mechanism, for which it seems to have a legitimate purpose, or whether it was intentionally used as anti-personnel munition. or, does such a distinction matter when its use -- whether legitimate or not -- becomes a de facto chemical attack on innocent civilians?
This would be the central point of the issue. Are WP rounds fired at buildings to kill inhabitants, or are they lobbed in the air for illumination? Typically, WP includes a parachute mechanism to slow the decent.

Historically, WP has been used as a munition to mark targets for subsequent rounds. This practice goes back to WWII. It was a low tech version of marking targets.
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figures.

that's okay, i'm sure most of the rest of the MSM, especially Fox News, will bury this story too.

let's continue talking about Andrea Yates and Natalie Holloway!!!

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it should be in war.....
Just add a donations link....
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Illumination? Isn't that what nightvision goggles are for?
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Illumination? Isn't that what nightvision goggles are for?
No.

WP adds light to an area.

Nightvision goggles only enhance existing (though minimal) illumination.
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Burning children running up and down the streets will shed a lot of light for Democracy and Freedom
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I agree. The war forum is useless.
it may not be the intention of the mods

but when a complainer gets tired of reading the truth about the bush admin

they get stuff moved here.



unfortunately

in *many parts of the world* the lead story on front pages of their national newspaper
has to with what could be shuffled off to this forum
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yet ...
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yes, no kidding.....

My one campaign red cross thread was closed. No one in here probably notices that these threads are illegal.
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figures.

that's okay, i'm sure most of the rest of the MSM, especially Fox News, will bury this story too.

let's continue talking about Andrea Yates and Natalie Holloway!!!

Irvine,
Since I was the mod who moved this thread I feel compelled to ask: what on earth makes you believe that I, of all people, am in favour of burying the horrible news about what's happening to the Iraqi people under occupation? I have consistently opposed this war since it was first advocated and I continue to strongly oppose the occupation. I've participated in numerous anti-war protests as well as participating in and helping to organise other anti-war activities. I'm currently involved in campaigning against the occupation, which believe it or not, involves making people aware of the suffering of the Iraqi people under occupation. Why, then, do you think I would be in favour of 'burying' this news here in FYM?

I appreciate that you dislike the idea of the War sub-forum, but this forum exists and is to be used for threads discussing the war. The fact that you dislike a policy of this site does not mean you're free to ignore it and the mods shouldn't challenge you. There are plenty of people who think we shouldn't have a rule forbidding personal attacks but that doesn't mean they're free to ignore the rule and start calling each other names.

And I really would appreciate you explaining why it is you believe I'm in favour of burying bad news from Iraq, especially in the light of my own consistent opposition to the war and occupation.

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You are so RIGHT wing FIZZY!
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Since I was the mod who moved this thread I feel compelled to ask: what on earth makes you believe that I, of all people, am in favour of burying the horrible news about what's happening to the Iraqi people under occupation?

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it may not be the intention of the mods <-----------------




unfortunately in *many parts of the world* the lead story on front pages of their national newspaper
has to with what could be shuffled off to this forum
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it may not be the intention of the mods

but when a complainer gets tired of reading the truth about the bush admin

they get stuff moved here.

No, I think you have it wrong. The complainer has had threads moved in here as well.

The complainer is looking for consistency.

The complainer wants this room closed.



Grow a pair and call me by name rather than the complainer.
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I do not think they used it as a weapon.

I am concerned that it was used at all. Even if the intent was for something else, the undesired effect is too costly in the court of public opinion.
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