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Absolutely real 10 18.87%
Probably real 2 3.77%
It's real, but you have to invite evil influences into your life 8 15.09%
No, not real; anyone claiming this is a mental case. 28 52.83%
There is a good force and a bad force in our universe-a person has to decide which force they choose to serve 2 3.77%
diamondbruno#9, do you have your own church and gospel? 3 5.66%
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Old 03-14-2008, 04:12 PM   #46
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Re: if it is a movie, it must be true!

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the WEBSITE

BOOKS

VHS TAPES AND CASSETTE TAPES (ok, they may be up to cds)

LECTURE CIRCUIT



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GULLIBLE SMUCKS
(that shell out hard earn money on this crap)
i asked you not to ridicule this man, his character or experience, but you just couldn't resist.

wow.

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i asked you not to ridicule this man, his character or experience, but you just couldn't resist.

wow.

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But it's the truth! He's profiting from his story! You can't deny that.
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I've also had, what some may call an outter body experience. I often have lucid dreams, sometimes a few a week. I'm not sure how common that is, but basically a lucid dream is when you consciously realize you are dreaming and you can start manipulating the characters and environment around you. They are quite facinating, you often don't want to wake up. But there have been a few of these lucid dreams that faded in and out of lucidness and I'm actually looking "down on me and am outside my body".
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It was more than a dream, if you read his story with an open mind along with his wife's corroborating story-you might be enlightened.

And just how do you KNOW you had more vivid dreams than this guy? When this was more than a dream anyway.

Your arrogance is astounding.

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The only person who's arrogance is astounding is yourself. I read word for word this man's story(so the fact that you maintain that I haven't shows how arrogant you truly are), not one thing showed me it was anything but a vivid dream. And the fact that you can't point to anything that shows anyone it was anything but, frustrates you.
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I think in the past ignorant people innocently mistook medical conditions such as epilepsy and other neurilogical disorders as demonic possession.

However the original story posted in the thread is entirely different.

How is it any different? Please enlighten us.
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But it's the truth! He's profiting from his story! You can't deny that.
how do you know?

maybe he charges for the cost of making the material and donates the proceeds to charity.

we really don't know.

and unless you're his accountant, we really will never know.

and it doesn't discredit his story.

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I've also had, what some may call an outter body experience. I often have lucid dreams, sometimes a few a week. I'm not sure how common that is, but basically a lucid dream is when you consciously realize you are dreaming and you can start manipulating the characters and environment around you. They are quite facinating, you often don't want to wake up. But there have been a few of these lucid dreams that faded in and out of lucidness and I'm actually looking "down on me and am outside my body".
wow, that's interesting.

wouldn't you be mad if someone discounted your experience?

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How is it any different? Please enlighten us.
if you can't see the difference there's really no purpose.

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"Even if you don’t believe my story, I hope you will believe the Scriptures and avoid hell just the same."



and this, ladies and gentlemen, is how you recruit.
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I've witnessed people in the throes of demon possession.

It's not pretty.


schizophrenia is ugly, i agree.
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I've also had, what some may call an outter body experience. I often have lucid dreams, sometimes a few a week. I'm not sure how common that is, but basically a lucid dream is when you consciously realize you are dreaming and you can start manipulating the characters and environment around you. They are quite facinating, you often don't want to wake up. But there have been a few of these lucid dreams that faded in and out of lucidness and I'm actually looking "down on me and am outside my body".
I have those, too.

One recurring one is where I can fly or glide, perhaps 6- 10 feet off the ground.

When I can, I take those along as far as I can until the conscious wins out over the subconscious


A dream is just the mind, the subconscious, de-fraging.
Much like a hard drive.


or



Is God calling me to be an Angel?

or a cast member on: Heroes?
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With regard to the original article specifically, and the whole topic in general - it's nonsense. Despite its use in everyday vernacular, parapsychology is not a legitimate branch of psychology, and is not recognized by any of the major psychology regulating bodies for very good reasons.

Paranormal phenomena have been studied by many legitimate researchers in the field decades ago, and it's been overwhelmingly found that there is no validity to paranormal claims made.

What many people don't realize is, the field of psychological research is very, very competitive and cutthroat, and researchers are always on the lookout for the next big thing, so that they can be on the cutting edge of new discoveries. If there was any validity at all to paranormal claims, legitimate researchers would be all over it. If there was an iota of indication that there may be some truth there, believe me, they'd be studying it and publishing their findings to death.
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OBE

Out of Body Experience?


i'd point to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dreaming

i have them fairly frequently, especially when i am overtired and try to catch up on REM sleep by napping in the late afternoon.

i had one today, actually. i've been working my ass off for the past three weeks, and today i'm "writing from home." i got up, had a doctor's appointment, came back, and took a 2 hour nap. over the course of the nap, i woke up several times and went down stairs to find a totally different house, with different people, different rooms, different colors.

it's fascinating. and when you get more comfortable with it, you can move freely and make things "happen" in the dream.

but you will eventually wake up. and feel very refreshed.

ETA: i guess this has already been brought up. sorry.
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schizophrenia is ugly, i agree.
ha.

gay ppl now arbitrarily assigning people to different psychological boxes.

i love you little irvine.


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do any of you discount

John Edward of Crossing Over?






certainly you will believe your own eyes and ears?


plus the thousands of people that will
swear he put them in touch with a departed loved one
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