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Old 11-09-2003, 10:04 PM   #16
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Well, I really meant those groups that do not consider themselves to be Democrat or Republican. Many of them believe the USA really has a 1 party system rather than a two party system.
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Well, I really meant those groups that do not consider themselves to be Democrat or Republican. Many of them believe the USA really has a 1 party system rather than a two party system.
I know. Socialists lump them all together as "capitalists".
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You do have one party. They are all conservative to a certain degree. Democrats (most) are conservative but have little liberal thinking. While Republican are very conservative.

But really all they do is take pot shots at eachother on minor issues. Its actually quite funny from an outsiders perspective to watch shows like crossfire, and to watch people within FYM.
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You do have one party. They are all conservative to a certain degree. Democrats (most) are conservative but have little liberal thinking. While Republican are very conservative.

But really all they do is take pot shots at eachother on minor issues. Its actually quite funny from an outsiders perspective to watch shows like crossfire, and to watch people within FYM.
You're right. We don't have an equivalent of the Social Democrat/Labour Parties of Europe. It's more like we have two branches of the Tories/Christian Democrats. European politics has much more of a difference than we have between our Democrats and Republicans, particularly the "moderate" wing of the Democratic Party and the "moderate" wing of the Republican Party. Our general elections are between moderate conservatives and gung-ho conservatives. I think this may be one reason why more people don't vote. Perhaps our politics is too much image and too little substance.
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Perhaps our politics is too much image and too little substance.


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Yeah, sometimes I think our politicians are basically celebrities, for the most part. People raise a stink about Hollywood people and other performers doing politics. But are our political figures that different from the professional performers? I really don't know.
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Yeah, sometimes I think our politicians are basically celebrities, for the most part. People raise a stink about Hollywood people and other performers doing politics. But are our political figures that different from the professional performers?
I think you're right. This is why I get so pissed off when people say, "leave the politics to the politicians", and right off anyone really trying to get something done.

Politicians for the most part are worthless but necessary evils.
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It's not *as* strange for a Southern Democrat, Salome. This doesn't surprise me. The South is conservative, but alot of our politicians are Democrats, even though we vote Republican in Presidential campaigns. Most of these "Democrats" vote Republican in presidential campaigns. Why are they still Democrats? Tradition. Tradition dies hard around here. Up until the '80's or '90's you still had to be a Democrat to get elected to state office. Out in the rural parts in particular there's still alot of that mentality. It goes back to the Civil War when the Democratic party was the party of secession and the Confederacy. I'm not saying these guys are necessarily neo-Confederates or Dixiecrats. But it's part of their conservativism.
It's the same in Kentucky. Both Senators are Republican and five of the six Representatives are (and the one Democrat is a Blue Dog), but it hasn't been until very recently that Republicans have been elected on the state/local level. I've known a lot of "Democrats" who are more conservative than most Republicans I've known.
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It's the same in Kentucky. Both Senators are Republican and five of the six Representatives are (and the one Democrat is a Blue Dog), but it hasn't been until very recently that Republicans have been elected on the state/local level. I've known a lot of "Democrats" who are more conservative than most Republicans I've known.
We call them "yellow dogs" here. Same thing, different color.
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