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Old 07-12-2007, 01:14 PM   #46
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What's this idiot been smoking?
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at the very least, Vitter was fucking the correct gender.

let's applaud him for that.

it's the little things that matter for the GOP these days.
did Mark Foley break any laws?



This guy did.


Let's see how the GOP deals with a U S Senator that took an oath to uphold the Constitution and swore an oath on the Bible.

and then,
while in office broke the law.
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did Mark Foley break any laws?


but Mark Foley was hitting on 18 year old men. it would have been far less creepy if he had been masturbating over Britney Spears' 1999 Rolling Stone photospread:



because 15 year old girls are hot, but 18 year old boys are immoral. every middle aged straight man knows that. and what's a little prostitution that a godly marriage In Christ can't fix?

not like those McGreevy's ...
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15 year old girls are hot,

are you against the American system?

What harm has come from that?


She seems to be doing quite well and she has had a very successful career.
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but Mark Foley was hitting on 18 year old men. it would have been far less creepy if he had been masturbating over Britney Spears' 1999 Rolling Stone photospread:



because 15 year old girls are hot, but 18 year old boys are immoral. every middle aged straight man knows that. and what's a little prostitution that a godly marriage In Christ can't fix?

not like those McGreevy's ...
There's a bit of massaging of the figures going on here, but that aside, presenting this as the usual 'persecuted gays' meme is silly.

Foley was damned by the media for his indiscretions, and now for his (much lower, as they involved consenting adults) Vitter is also being hounded.

Both Foley and for that matter Clinton abused their offices to take advantage of employees and that is abominable. Of course, that does not mean it should be treated as an impeachable offense but it should certainly be condemned.
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There's a bit of massaging of the figures going on here, but that aside, presenting this as the usual 'persecuted gays' meme is silly.

Foley was damned by the media for his indiscretions, and now for his (much lower, as they involved consenting adults) Vitter is also being hounded.

Both Foley and for that matter Clinton abused their offices to take advantage of employees and that is abominable. Of course, that does not mean it should be treated as an impeachable offense but it should certainly be condemned.


the point is that when middle-aged men take an interest in late-adolescent teenaged males, it's always labled pedophilia/pederasty. and it should be, since we have an age of consent of 18, something Foley clearly abided by, it seems. Foley had sex with former pages of legal age. Vitter used prostitues. one thing is illegal, the other is not.

regardless, Foley is a creep. Vitter is a creep, and broke actual laws, and should be punished as well.

when middle-aged men take an interest in mid-to-late-adolescent teenaged females -- can we remember the countdown for when the Olsen twins became legal? can we listen again, in that song from that Herbie movie, when Lindsay Lohan gasps into the microphone, "i wannt come first, i wanna come FIRST!" -- it's considered perfeclty good commerce.

that's simply the double standard i'm highlighting.
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There's a bit of massaging of the figures going on here,

you are correct, though. Brit was 17 when those Lolita photos were taken. not 15.
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You do realize that Vitter used prostitutes in 3 different circumstances (repeatedly) and each time it was illegal.
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Republicans called on Vitter to resign.

Republican State Central Committee member Vincent Bruno of Kenner, a former New Orleans police leader, said Vitter should quit "for his own good, the good of the party and the good of his family."

Bruno said if Vitter doesn't quit, he should "join the Democratic Party, where they think that kind of behavior is OK."

Bruno said if the GOP doesn't enforce family values, "they ought to take it out of the vocabulary." If not, "we are the party of hypocrites. Vote for us, and we'll lie to you, we'll engage prostitutes, and we'll cheat on our wives."

Christopher Tidmore of Metairie, now a Republican candidate for the state Legislature, wrote the Louisiana Weekly article five years ago about Vitter's relationship with Canal Street brothel prostitute Wendy Cortez. Vitter continuously denied any relationship. Tidmore said Vitter has tried to sabotage his career since he wrote the article.
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See all this could be avoided if you legalised prostitution and lowered the age of consent to 16
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Actually, all of this could be avoided if the US didn't have such insanely backwards ideas about sex. We're obsessed with it--use it to sell everything...yet we're a nation of prudes who gasp and hide our eyes at the idea of it. If we'd freaking grow up and accept it as a natural part of being human and not try to attach all these morals to it, we'd be a lot more comfortable in our own skins.

I totally support what Larry Flint is doing (BTW, his Hustler store north of Cincy is rather nice...very clean!). He's just pushing buttons to show the hypocracy that's rampant in the Republican party. He's doing what the journalists and media of this country seem to be unable to do lately--call out bullshit when they see it!
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Looks like all the hypocrites in the GOP are being exposed lately:

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Washroom Sex Bust Blow To McCain Campaign
by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff

Posted: July 12, 2007 - 5:00 pm ET

(Titusville, Florida) A co-chair of Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign in Florida has been busted for trying to pick up an undercover male police officer.

State Rep. Bob Allen (R), a foe of LGBT rights in Florida, is charged with offering the cop $20 for oral sex in a washroom at Veteran's Memorial Park in Titusville.

Police said that Allen, 48, was seen coming in and out of a restroom three times before approaching the officer.

Allen has been charged with solicitation for prostitution, which has a maximum penalty of one year in jail.

The state lawmaker is one of six co-chairs of McCain's Florida campaign. Allen posted a $500 bond and was released pending trial.

Ironically in the last session of the Florida legislature he sponsored a failed bill that would have tightened the state's prohibition on public sex. He also has been a supporter of amending the state constitution to ban same-sex marriage and has opposed a bill to curb bullying of gay students.

Allen resigned Thursday from the McCain campaign.

Meanwhile, two McCain strategists abandoned the campaign in Iowa on Thursday. Ed Failor Jr.and Karen Slifka longtime GOP operatives with deep ties in Iowa.

The three withdrawals Thursday will hurt McCain's campaign already damaged by money problems.
So...which Republican hypocrite is next?
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Is it that the ones who are the most frightened by their own sexuality are the ones trying to legislate it out of existence?
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Well, common sense tells us making something illegal completely eliminates any desire to do it.



It boggles the mind.
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Well, common sense tells us making something illegal completely eliminates any desire to do it.



It boggles the mind.
Well duh! Nobody drank alcohol during Prohibition, right?


I know your comment was sarcastic! I just wanted to emphasize it a little more.
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