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Old 09-21-2005, 07:53 PM   #1
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Cultural Pollution?

Israeli Couple Fined for Kissing in India

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India may be the land of the Kamasutra, the ancient treatise on sex, but public displays of affection remain strictly taboo in the country's hinterlands, as an Israeli couple found out.

They were fined 500 Indian rupees ($11) each for embracing and kissing after getting married in a traditional Hindu ceremony in the northwestern Indian town Pushkar, the Asian Age newspaper reported Wednesday.

The Israeli Embassy in New Delhi confirmed the incident and identified the couple as Alon Orpaz and Tehila Salev, who decided to get married while visiting India. The embassy did not provide additional details.

The Asian Age said priests at Pushkar's Brahma temple were so incensed when the couple smooched as hymns were still being chanted that they filed a police complaint.

A court in Pushkar then charged them with indecency and ordered them to pay the fine or face 10 days in prison, the newspaper reported. The couple decided to pay, it said.

"We will not tolerate any cultural pollution of this sort," the newspaper quoted a priest, Ladoo Ram Sharma, as saying.
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one more reason why i don't live in india
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Old 09-22-2005, 03:22 AM   #3
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That's how some cultures are.

Every country has their version of liberal and conservative, tradition and modernism. Go to america and you can say whatever you want in a song, any word, any image, anything at all, rape, sex, drugs, you name it.




Every country has it's ... peculiarities ...
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That's how some cultures are.

Every country has their version of liberal and conservative, tradition and modernism. Go to america and you can say whatever you want in a song, any word, any image, anything at all, rape, sex, drugs, you name it.




Every country has it's ... peculiarities ...
But is it right?

Is this a basic human right taken away, or is our society too loose?

I think it's somewhat irresponsible to just throw up your shoulders and say this is how they are.
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And who really cares if they had to pay $11?

If you want to marry in another country and especially with a ceremony of another culture, you better know the rules, ´ts as simple as that. it´s also strange that an Israeli couple is upset about that, I wonder what would happen if they kissed wildly just when there is a Jewish tradition. I am sure some Jewish people would feel disturbed.

A newspaper reporting this is plain dumb. Apparently they don´t know how to fill their papers with good articles anymore. And the pair there, they should take it with some humor.

Respect other cultures when you go there to marry! If not, stay in Israel to marry, or go to Europe or America, where no one will raise an eyebrow.

I know the region of Pushkar is said to be very beautiful. Have you ever heard how the traditional weddings are performed there? One of my friends just visited India last December and told me about the time he was invited to that wedding.
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A newspaper reporting this is plain dumb.


that is what i was thinking too


if some European got a ticket or fine for going topless on a USA public beach
her countrymen would probably think American customs are overly restrictive
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that is what i was thinking too

if some European got a ticket or fine for going topless on a USA public beach
her countrymen would probably think American customs are overly restrictive

Actually the same would apply, in theory at least, on most European public beaches......topless or nudist beaches are limited to certain areas.
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well

i guess I will be rethinking my vacation plans
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..topless or nudist beaches are limited to certain areas.

in America

I believe they are limited to almost no public beaches
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in America

I believe they are limited to almost no public beaches
we have one here
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i think it is not to west's credit to judge other cultures from their own cultural standpoint. customs, cultures are quite different in parts of the world, and you can not impose change on others because you think they are wrong. only they themselves can change, that is if they wish to. i find it rather arrogant and self-righteous to say 'oh look what they do there, thats so wrong'. dont get me wrong, i am not very thrilled with conservatism myself, but there is a very fine line when youre discussing such issues in an international context.

on the other hand, i dont see what's newsworthy here
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I guess we can duck the question of whether a country can/should dictate its cultural preferences, and whether that principle should apply from across all countries.

If we embrace multiculturalism, can we honestly turn around and support cultural protectionism?
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I guess we can duck the question of whether a country can/should dictate its cultural preferences, and whether that principle should apply from across all countries.

If we embrace multiculturalism, can we honestly turn around and support cultural protectionism?


when you are in another country, you are subject to it's laws.

this seems silly, i agree, but i don't see, really, what the big deal is. if we are talking about gross violations of human rights (i.e., female genital mutilation), then i think that trumps any sort of cultural protectionism. however, in a situation like this, what's the big deal?
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Are we really surprised? Christian conservatives are doing everything they can to stop the so-called "cultural pollution" of gay marriage.

I can imagine that getting Hinduism to change would be as futile as getting Christianity to change.

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