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Old 06-08-2007, 05:00 PM   #256
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I can disprove literal creationism, the Earth is billions of years old and it can be dated by measuring the ratios of parent to daughter isotopes from radioactive decay. In rocks dated at different ages using geochronology there are different types of fossils in them and we don't observe a period when every possible species of life existed on the same planet (in some cases they simply couldn't have lived together due to different temperatures and atmospheric conditions.
I guess God sure goofed when he put those 2 rocks next to each other. Silly God, what a jokester.
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I guess God sure goofed when he put those 2 rocks next to each other. Silly God, what a jokester.


wow.
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I guess God sure goofed when he put those 2 rocks next to each other. Silly God, what a jokester.
Wow indeed. Here's that link:
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I guess God sure goofed when he put those 2 rocks next to each other. Silly God, what a jokester.
So it's not just your political views, your whole life is based on things you can't back up, explain or make sense of...

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I can disprove literal creationism, the Earth is billions of years old and it can be dated by measuring the ratios of parent to daughter isotopes from radioactive decay. In rocks dated at different ages using geochronology there are different types of fossils in them and we don't observe a period when every possible species of life existed on the same planet (in some cases they simply couldn't have lived together due to different temperatures and atmospheric conditions.
Does it ever occur to you (any of you) that sometimes maybe God does stuff that dont follow the laws of science? Different types of life as you mention may have existed at the same type. If so, I'm sure God provided for them and made it possible, because He is God and doesnt have regard for mere man's science. I believe God is constantly testing us and our faith in Him, and maybe billions of years ago he thought, "Hmm, I'll do something that scientists billions of years later will question (like your notion of different species being incapatible), and that will show me who really believes in me."
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So it's not just your political views, your whole life is based on things you can't back up, explain or make sense of...

You're right. I cannot make sense of or explain God and what He does sometimes. For the millionth time, creationism and the existence of a God cannot be proven, at least not until Jesus returns.
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You're right. I cannot make sense of or explain God and what He does sometimes. For the millionth time, creationism and the existence of a God cannot be proven, at least not until Jesus returns.


you're right.

keep it out of my science classes.

that's all that anybody's asking. believe whatever you want. don't force it on anybody else.

but don't get mad if you engage in discussion and people take you to task on assertions that aren't well substantiated.
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Does it ever occur to you (any of you) that sometimes maybe God does stuff that dont follow the laws of science? Different types of life as you mention may have existed at the same type. If so, I'm sure God provided for them and made it possible, because He is God and doesnt have regard for mere man's science. I believe God is constantly testing us and our faith in Him, and maybe billions of years ago he thought, "Hmm, I'll do something that scientists billions of years later will question (like your notion of different species being incapatible), and that will show me who really believes in me."
So he just bummed around for billions of years and then thought, sure why don't I create some a funny little species called homo sapiens? And what big thrill would he get out of testing us to see who believes in him? Surely if God provided us with reason he would value individuals who employ their Reason in reaching the conclusion that God doeas not exist over those who who do not use Reason but instead blindly have faith in Him? There are just too many contradictions I'm afraid.
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Does it ever occur to you (any of you) that sometimes maybe God does stuff that dont follow the laws of science? Different types of life as you mention may have existed at the same type. If so, I'm sure God provided for them and made it possible, because He is God and doesnt have regard for mere man's science. I believe God is constantly testing us and our faith in Him, and maybe billions of years ago he thought, "Hmm, I'll do something that scientists billions of years later will question (like your notion of different species being incapatible), and that will show me who really believes in me."
But things like rudist reefs make so much more sense in the context of a dynamic Earth, we don't need to understand the mind of some incomprehensible being to interperate it as we can see the processes happening today. Materialism / naturalism has some great advantages in how we look at the world and doens't diminish the importance of it, and neither is is mutually exclusive to faith.
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You're right. I cannot make sense of or explain God and what He does sometimes. For the millionth time, creationism and the existence of a God cannot be proven, at least not until Jesus returns.
I'm not asking you to explain God, I'm asking you to explain the evidence we have against the world being created in 6 days. Just start with the dinosaurs and we'll go from there.

I'm serious, I want you for once to back something up.
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How do we know that God didn't gather matter from other planets and slap it together to create earth over a matter of 6000 years ( a day is 1000 years to God).

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( a day is 1000 years to God).
Is that in the Bible?
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How do we know that God didn't gather matter from other planets and slap it together to create earth over a matter of 6000 years ( a day is 1000 years to God).

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Because 1000 years is nothing in a geological sense and the earliest known minerals on Earth (from right here in Australia) are 4,400,000,000 years old. Also the bulk composition of the Earth is closer to the that of chondritic meteorites in the solar system than the surfaces of other planets, formation by accretion of this material during the early days of the solar system makes more sense than it being transported from other already formed planets to make Earth.
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Because 1000 years is nothing in a geological sense and the earliest known minerals on Earth (from right here in Australia) are 4,400,000,000 years old. Also the bulk composition of the Earth is closer to the that of chondritic meteorites in the solar system than the surfaces of other planets, formation by accretion of this material during the early days of the solar system makes more sense than it being transported from other already formed planets to make Earth.
And it's God's universe and he could assemble it any way He saw fit, much to the chagrin of archaeologists, atheists and geologists.


For kicks He threw in dinosaurs bones for free, or made sure they were there from the other planets he drew matter from.

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For kicks He threw in dinosaurs bones for free, or made sure they were there from the other planets he drew matter from.

And now you're a scientologist?
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