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Old 10-05-2006, 10:29 AM   #1
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Court Allows NSA Wiretapping Program to Continue During Appeal

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217847,00.html

CINCINNATI — The Bush administration can continue its warrantless surveillance program while it appeals a judge's ruling that the program is unconstitutional, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday.

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So Big Brother can continue watching...what would the forefathers say.
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Old 10-05-2006, 11:43 AM   #3
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So Big Brother can continue watching...what would the forefathers say.
No one's listening to your phone conversations, unless of course, you are carrying on phone conversations with terrorists. Are you?
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No one's listening to your phone conversations, unless of course, you are carrying on phone conversations with terrorists. Are you?


but George Bush gets to decide this. he gets to decide if you're a person of interest or not, and whether or not your conversations might "support" terrorism.

and, if he wants, on the basis of these conversations, he can send you to GITMO and hold you for years without ever presenting any charges.

you will be disappeared.
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but George Bush gets to decide this. he gets to decide if you're a person of interest or not, and whether or not your conversations might "support" terrorism.

and, if he wants, on the basis of these conversations, he can send you to GITMO and hold you for years without ever presenting any charges.

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There is a lot of hysteria regarding this issue. The calls that are being traced are calls from and to terrorist suspects, and they are international calls. I wouldn't be surprised if the crowd that wants the wiretapping program overthrown would have also opposed Morse code and the cryptologists to helped intercepted messages from the Germans in WWI. Cryptography is estimated to have its earliest origins in around 2000 B.C. (Source) We had a lot of success decrypting Japanese codes in WWII, while they had little success decrypting ours. Wiretapping is just as useful, and going after the NSA is only going to prolong the war effort.
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There is a lot of hysteria regarding this issue. The calls that are being traced are calls from and to terrorist suspects, and they are international calls. I wouldn't be surprised if the crowd that wants the wiretapping program overthrown would have also opposed Morse code and the cryptologists to helped intercepted messages from the Germans in WWI. Cryptography is estimated to have its earliest origins in around 2000 B.C. (Source) We had a lot of success decrypting Japanese codes in WWII, while they had little success decrypting ours. Wiretapping is just as useful, and going after the NSA is only going to prolong the war effort.


why do you make such historical assumptions?

you know what happens when you assume? you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me."

but, anyway, thanks for the cryptography lesson, but we're ignoring the issue here -- the powers that have been given to the executive and how he can determine, at his own discretion, who is and who isn't to be considered to be in "material support" of suspected terrorists.

if you were Muslim. or if your skin were simply brown, you'd be singing a much different tune.
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No one's listening to your phone conversations, unless of course, you are carrying on phone conversations with terrorists. Are you?
Terrorists? What assures you of this? Since this isn't assured, yes they could be tapping your phone next.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the crowd that wants the wiretapping program overthrown would have also opposed Morse code and the cryptologists to helped intercepted messages from the Germans in WWI.
Your assumptions and "logic" crack me up. How can you compare a communication process used only by military during a truly defined war, with a communication process used by all during a time that isn't a true war?

Seriously.
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We had a lot of success decrypting Japanese codes in WWII, while they had little success decrypting ours.
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That's right, it's strictly George Bush's judgment, which I don't have alot of faith in.
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and, if he wants, on the basis of these conversations, he can send you to GITMO and hold you for years without ever presenting any charges.

you will be disappeared.
Speaking of...anybody seen Phil Collins lately?
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