Court Allows NSA Wiretapping Program to Continue During Appeal

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So Big Brother can continue watching...what would the forefathers say. :(
 
CTU2fan said:
So Big Brother can continue watching...what would the forefathers say. :(

No one's listening to your phone conversations, unless of course, you are carrying on phone conversations with terrorists. Are you?
 
80sU2isBest said:


No one's listening to your phone conversations, unless of course, you are carrying on phone conversations with terrorists. Are you?



but George Bush gets to decide this. he gets to decide if you're a person of interest or not, and whether or not your conversations might "support" terrorism.

and, if he wants, on the basis of these conversations, he can send you to GITMO and hold you for years without ever presenting any charges.

you will be disappeared.
 
Irvine511 said:
but George Bush gets to decide this. he gets to decide if you're a person of interest or not, and whether or not your conversations might "support" terrorism.

and, if he wants, on the basis of these conversations, he can send you to GITMO and hold you for years without ever presenting any charges.

you will be disappeared.
There is a lot of hysteria regarding this issue. The calls that are being traced are calls from and to terrorist suspects, and they are international calls. I wouldn't be surprised if the crowd that wants the wiretapping program overthrown would have also opposed Morse code and the cryptologists to helped intercepted messages from the Germans in WWI. Cryptography is estimated to have its earliest origins in around 2000 B.C. (Source) We had a lot of success decrypting Japanese codes in WWII, while they had little success decrypting ours. Wiretapping is just as useful, and going after the NSA is only going to prolong the war effort.
 
Macfistowannabe said:
There is a lot of hysteria regarding this issue. The calls that are being traced are calls from and to terrorist suspects, and they are international calls. I wouldn't be surprised if the crowd that wants the wiretapping program overthrown would have also opposed Morse code and the cryptologists to helped intercepted messages from the Germans in WWI. Cryptography is estimated to have its earliest origins in around 2000 B.C. (Source) We had a lot of success decrypting Japanese codes in WWII, while they had little success decrypting ours. Wiretapping is just as useful, and going after the NSA is only going to prolong the war effort.



why do you make such historical assumptions?

you know what happens when you assume? you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me."

but, anyway, thanks for the cryptography lesson, but we're ignoring the issue here -- the powers that have been given to the executive and how he can determine, at his own discretion, who is and who isn't to be considered to be in "material support" of suspected terrorists.

if you were Muslim. or if your skin were simply brown, you'd be singing a much different tune.
 
80sU2isBest said:


No one's listening to your phone conversations, unless of course, you are carrying on phone conversations with terrorists. Are you?

Terrorists? What assures you of this? Since this isn't assured, yes they could be tapping your phone next.
 
Macfistowannabe said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the crowd that wants the wiretapping program overthrown would have also opposed Morse code and the cryptologists to helped intercepted messages from the Germans in WWI.

Your assumptions and "logic" crack me up. How can you compare a communication process used only by military during a truly defined war, with a communication process used by all during a time that isn't a true war?

Seriously.
 
Irvine511 said:


and, if he wants, on the basis of these conversations, he can send you to GITMO and hold you for years without ever presenting any charges.

you will be disappeared.

Speaking of...anybody seen Phil Collins lately?
 
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