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Old 01-23-2003, 02:49 AM   #16
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wow, debbiesg took a page out of my book on sarcasm.

i hope...
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Old 01-23-2003, 07:07 AM   #17
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wow, debbiesg took a page out of my book on sarcasm.

i hope...
My thoughts exactly........

Dang we agreed again on something
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Old 01-23-2003, 07:24 AM   #18
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not cool...
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Geez, I hope so too.

Otherwise...what right have you got to say that?
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Old 01-23-2003, 10:10 AM   #20
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don't. he's a presbyterian (right?) and he's going to Hell. hope you can find the truth among the lies, the Devil is the Master of Deception.

and he used to be God's musical angel
I think it is sarcasm, because, if I recall, DebbieSG once told us that she attends a Presbyterian church.

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Old 01-23-2003, 10:21 AM   #21
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So Messianic Jews attend Presbyterian churches?
Interesting.
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I will defer to DebbieSG for an expert opinion, but I would suppose a Messianic Jew could attend whatever congregation they feel comfortable in. There is a Messianic Jewish temple/church near my home, but a Jewish person who converted to Christianity attends my United Methodist church. DebbieSG also told us in another thread she has attended various churches.

Maybe I am wrong; maybe she really did condemn NBCrusader to hell. If so, we should all pray for his soul!

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Debbie, come and defend yourself!
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I'm not really sure what's going on here, but even if it is a joke (and we have smilies to denote sarcasm) i find that comment offensive.

perhaps it can be deleted so we can continue?
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Old 01-23-2003, 05:47 PM   #25
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I am still really hoping it was a joke.
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Let's move on....

Mrs. Edge, you are asking some great questions that help us all understand our faith - keep 'em coming!!
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lol, debbie sg is shedding her angel image in a hurry.
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Old 01-23-2003, 07:16 PM   #28
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Here's my attempt to answer. I agree with what nbcrusader had to say, and this is what came when I tried to formulate a response for Mrs. Edge.


I believe that if a person truly and sincerely asks for forgiveness from God for an act then God will forgive that person. This is part of God's grace, and as humans we don't really understand it. We keep wanting to put boundaries on it and conditions, but his love is *UN*conditional. Talk about extreme love- it's even more extreme than the love a husband and wife have. If a husband beat her wife, she would leave him. That's a condition (rightfully so) on their love. A mother may be more forgiving a son. But if her son murdered her other son, perhaps less forgiving. Another condition on love. With God, there are no conditions. There are no limits for His love for us. In the same way there is no limit for His desire for us to be with Him, and that means asking for forgivness. So, I think that if someone commits a horrendous sin, and honest and truly wants forgiveness, then yes God will grant
it to him or her. Of course if the person merely regurgitates lines they've heard without truly beliving or desiring forgivenss then God will know.

But God's grace is not a weakness on His part. If a person truly has changed and desires Him and forgiveness for these horrible acts, then it would seem true that God would want to take that person into His arms (so to speak) and turn His life and heart around. So His grace benifits the person, benifits everyone the person knows, etc. Obviously this person may have done some horrible sin and may have to pay the price on earth (jail, etc.) but God's grace will still allow this person into God's heart.

I hope that made some sense. Althought it may seem like God is betraying the victim by forgiving the person, He would really be
betraying the person if He did not grant forgiveness & a fresh start. After all He wants all of us to be with Him! And if He puts
conditions on His love, it could possibly leave us all out in the cold. That's not what God wants, and that's why His Grace is so
encompassing & forgiving.
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Old 01-23-2003, 07:19 PM   #29
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There are victims, because there is free will. Just as we have the perfect free will to do good, we also have the free will to do bad. In both instances, undeniably, our actions have effect on other people. Any compromise on that would mean that we really don't have free will.

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p.s. Melon, all your posts teach me something new. Thanks.
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