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Old 04-29-2004, 10:26 AM   #16
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I'm not surprised. Hell, it was public knowledge in the Ukraine that business people in Kiev and other places were doing illegal business in Iraq. I was reading this in the Kiev news when my sister was in Ukraine in September, 2002. Ukraine is not the most open society anywhere, and people were talking about this stuff in the streets. My sister told me she saw people demonstrating in the streets against government cover-ups and all sorts of corruption. Did the U.N. do anything? No. The business people went about their "business". The weird thing is that Ukraine sent troops to Iraq. It's all in a year's business.........
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We had no mandate to stop oil smuggling
And we're expected to look to this guy for world leadership?
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Old 04-29-2004, 11:14 AM   #18
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No kidding.....and Mr. Anan's son worked for one of the companies accused.

His son got the job there after the contracts, but, heheh it certainly would help us turn a blind eye now wouldn't it.
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If the name in this controversy was Bush instead of Anan, W. would've been forced to resign weeks ago.
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Old 04-29-2004, 01:27 PM   #20
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Well i think it's comparable to the Sharon-scandal and i think both men should seriousely think about resigning if there is any truth in this story.
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Old 05-03-2004, 09:55 PM   #21
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I remember people in here saying that it was the "SANCTIONS" supported by the US that was responsible for the demise of the people in Iraq.

Think again!!! They are now thinking kickbacks to Saddam and the bathists were close to 10%.

[Q]In one of the many deals funded by UN-supervised oil exports from Iraq, a delivery of cameras and audiovisual equipment for the culture ministry - sent as "humanitarian" items, under a loophole - was valued at 100 per cent above its true cost.

According to new documents recovered in Baghdad, multi-million pound deals with the public works ministry for sanitation and water filtration equipment were often marked up by as much as 30 per cent.

The discrepancy represents the kickbacks for leaders and regime officials who skimmed off billions of pounds from the scheme that was supposed to provide food, medicine and essential supplies for the Iraqi people.

Some went straight into the bank accounts of Saddam, his family and supporters, in addition to officials who negotiated the deals. The Iraqi dictator, however, is also alleged to have paid millions of pounds in cash and oil trading vouchers to foreign companies and individuals from the kickbacks.[/Q]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...ixnewstop.html
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this story is burried in the press... 20 pages in the newspapers, after the third commercial on the nightly news reports... this is far worse than the whole haliburton thing and has recieved a fraction of the publicity. how interesting.
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Old 05-04-2004, 04:35 PM   #23
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[Q] BENON SEVAN
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May 4, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - The United Nations yesterday threw up a stone wall in the oil-for-food scandal, insisting that contracts between the world body and private companies should not be turned over to investigators.
In a defiant move that has infuriated probers, Secretary-General Kofi Annan threw his support behind a letter from former oil-for-food head Benon Sevan to officials of a Dutch company that inspected Iraqi oil shipments. The letter directed the company not to hand over documents to congressional committees and other "governmental authorities."

Sevan's shocking April 14 letter sternly reminded the company, Saybolt International, that details of its contract with the United Nations are confidential "and we would not agree to their release."
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... and this thread is getting burried in this forum... again... how interesting.
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Old 05-06-2004, 07:28 AM   #25
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And another Michael Moore thread gets more posts than this...LOL

[Q]No talk of right-wing plots can alter the plain truth:

* That much of the food, hospital supplies and other humanitarian goods that were supposed to be bought with Oil-for-Food funds never were, because contractors overcharged the program and kicked back a percentage of the proceeds to Iraqi officials.

* That fully half of the 13 percent of Oil-for-Food revenues that were supposed to go to the Kurds living in the northern No-Fly Zone - some $4.4 billion - is still unaccounted for. The money seems to have been hijacked by Saddam's officials while U.N. "watchmen" turned a blind eye.

* That the Oil-for-Food office never transferred its database to the Coalition Provisional Authority - despite Benon Savan's assurances to the Security Council that it had done so.

* That many Oil-for-Food contractors turned out to be false fronts or non-existent when the CPA tried to contact them.

* That Oil-for-Food funds meant for a full range of humanitarian projects were instead diverted to pay for luxury cars and the construction of an Olympic Stadium for Saddam's son Uday - a project that Kofi Annan personally approved.

* That the United Nations can't begin to explain how all of this happened, or how its oversight system failed.

Assuming, of course, that the United Nations ever intended for the oversight system to work in the first place.

One way or another, it's time to find out.

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http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/editorial/20234.htm

Sometime soon I am going to fins the posts from indivisuals in this forum where they blamed the US for the conditions in Iraq pre-war.
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one of the biggest sticking points about why we shouldn't be going to war in iraq was because the "rest of the world," meaning the members of the UN security council, didn't agree with us... the dissenters said we shouldn't go alone, we should stick by what the UN is doing, has said, etc.

now... low and behold... high ranking UN officials would stand to lose millions of dollars if saddam was removed from power...

and those same dissenters don't fucking give a shit. they don't stand outside the united nations protesting. they shrug it off and ignore it.

you want to talk about a disgrace? that's a god damned disgrace.

you can jump up and down and scream your lungs out about how those who supported the war are ignoring the fact that WMD has still yet to be found. fine... you're right. that is a major issue and the fact that our intelligence community was THAT wrong must be addressed. but damn it, so does this. but here it goes... sliding further and further into the back of the paper. it disgusts me.

you wanna rake bush and rumsfeld across the coals, fine... just make sure anan is next to them.
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because the role of commissions in the UN is about as much common knowledge as the role of corporate lobbies in US politics
Ain't that the truth!

Still, it would be interesting to see this story unravel and find out exactly to what extend these corrupt UN people influenced their countries decisions. In any way, I doubt these people had a large effect on the millions and millions of people in the streets protesting against the war. In that sense, 'the rest of the world' didn't and still don't seem to agree.
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[Q]The U.N. letter, obtained by The Post, reminded the consultant that under his contract with the oil-for-food program, he "may not communicate at any time to any other person, government or authority external to the United Nations any information known to them by reason of their association with the United Nations, which has not been made public."

"In view of the contractual provisions referred to above and the fact that these matters relate to internal U.N. procedures for administering the Programme, we would ask that you consult with the U.N. before releasing any documentation or information," the letter said.

It is the third letter to surface this week from Sevan's office to companies that did business with the oil-for-food program that invoked confidentiality agreements and demanded that they not release documents to outside investigators. [/Q]

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[Q]First came the shock that United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annanís son, Kojo was connected to the ill-fated program. According to the New York Post On-Line edition, family members of former UN Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali are officers of a Panamanian-registered company in which Benon Sevan, a UN assistant Secretary General, appointed to administer the oil-for-food program, had a connection.[/Q]

Scary.......

Sevan received vouchers according to the article.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/cover_story.htm
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and people still talk more about haliburton...
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