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Old 01-22-2005, 09:52 PM   #76
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I love how loving your fellow human and not casting them into a "life of sin" is a liberal thing. It should be a human thing.
I love my fellow human, I just hate sin. I didn't cast anyone into homosexuality (and I pray I never do).
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I support homosexuality. I give to them every Christmas and buy their cookies when they come door to door.
Apparently from what I hear they are doing just fine without some of you.



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I love my fellow human, I just hate sin. I didn't cast anyone into homosexuality (and I pray I never do).
No but you judge them as living a life of sin, when you haven't even proven that it is sin.

Do you hate all sin or just those that don't pertain to you?
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No but you judge them as living a life of sin, when you haven't even proven that it is sin.
Don't we all live a life of sin?
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I love my fellow human, I just hate sin. I didn't cast anyone into homosexuality (and I pray I never do).
Just how does one go about casting someone into homosexuality?
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No but you judge them as living a life of sin, when you haven't even proven that it is sin.

Do you hate all sin or just those that don't pertain to you?
I hate all sin, including the sin that pertains to me. I am judging them as living a life of sin. The Bible says for a christian to judge righteously, according to God's word:

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

This is from Romans 1: 26-27
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Don't we all live a life of sin?
No we're all sinners but we all don't live a life of sin.
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Just how does one go about casting someone into homosexuality?
I was joking. I meant if a man was attracted to me causing him to be homosexual.
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I hate all sin, including the sin that pertains to me. I am judging them as living a life of sin. The Bible says for a christian to judge righteously, according to God's word:

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

This is from Romans 1: 26-27
I'm well aware of the verse, but unlike every other sin there is no collaboration from any other author, Jesus, or God. Every other sin was defined by God or Jesus himself. Why would this be the only sin solely defined by man? I don't believe in sin defined by man.
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I'd say Soddom and Gomorrah was pretty definitive on God's part.

I also know Paul (the author of that verse) was dearly beloved in Jesus' eyes. Everything written in the Bible is of divine inspiration, if not, we may as well throw it in the trash.
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BVS: How do you interpret Matthew 19?

19:4 He answered, “Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator made them male and female,6 19:5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?7 19:6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” 19:7 They said to him, “Why then did Moses command us to give a certificate of dismissal and to divorce her?”8 19:8 Jesus9 said to them, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because of your hard hearts,10 but from the beginning it was not this way. 19:9 Now I say to you that whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another commits adultery.” 19:10 The11 disciples said to him, “If this is the case of a husband with a wife, it is better not to marry!” 19:11 He12 said to them, “Not everyone can accept this statement, except those to whom it has been given. 19:12 For there are some eunuchs who were that way from birth,13 and some who were made eunuchs14 by others,15 and some who became eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who is able to accept this should accept it.”
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I'd say Soddom and Gomorrah was pretty definitive on God's part.

I also know Paul (the author of that verse) was dearly beloved in Jesus' eyes. Everyting written in the Bible is of divine inspiration, if not, we may as wll throw it in the trash.
Soddom and Gomorrah has been very extensively debated in here. It was not about homosexuality it was about sexual immorrality. I won't go into it again but if you'd like please read some of Dreadsox's post about it.
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BVS: How do you interpret Matthew 19?

19:4 He answered, “Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator made them male and female,6 19:5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?7 19:6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” 19:7 They said to him, “Why then did Moses command us to give a certificate of dismissal and to divorce her?”8 19:8 Jesus9 said to them, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because of your hard hearts,10 but from the beginning it was not this way. 19:9 Now I say to you that whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another commits adultery.” 19:10 The11 disciples said to him, “If this is the case of a husband with a wife, it is better not to marry!” 19:11 He12 said to them, “Not everyone can accept this statement, except those to whom it has been given. 19:12 For there are some eunuchs who were that way from birth,13 and some who were made eunuchs14 by others,15 and some who became eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who is able to accept this should accept it.”
You've asked me this before and I will not go into it again, except to say this example speaks of only ONE scenario. There's no mention of a woman leaving her parents, no mention if women divorce, etc so are we to take from that if women leave their parents first it's sin, or if a woman divorces due to her husband infedelity then it's sin? I don't think so.
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God's design for marriage is well-defined in this statement. Do you REALLY think God DESIGNED MARRIAGE for two or more people in the same gender? If he did, there would be natural ways of procreation, now wouldn't there?

“Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator made them male and female,6 19:5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?7 19:6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh.
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Yeah, I can't very well imagine God commanding us to marry and multiply throughout the Earth if he promoted homosexuality.
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