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Old 11-04-2005, 04:30 PM   #91
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I'd like to know why this thread is against forum rules....someone cannot support Bush without being called a Troll?! wtf...
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Excuse me, but why is it so interesting what the polls say? Bush is going to stay in office and he can´t rerun for President.

I really dislike the blah in the media, Bush is like that, his ratings go up, his ratings go down. What is that of any interest to me, they even say it in the news here! It´s not even my President!

And it would only be interesting if polling had some effect. But it doesn´t.

So what is the whole point here?



there are a few points.

the first is juvenile, and it's called Schadenfreude, but damn it does feel good. i love the buyer's remorse i'm hearing from the more rational republicans i know, and it also helps to show who's really drunk the Kool-Aid and would blindly follow bush into a burning buildling.

the other reasons is that the president will become a liability for Republican members of congress in 2006. if he is seen as unpopular, then members of congress will seek to distance themselves from him, and his agenda becomes less and less likely to pass, he looses power, becomes, in essence, what is known as a lame duck.

while the presidency is important, it isn't (yet) a dictatorship. for congress to fall out of republican control, the democrats are greatly advantaged if they can link congresspersons in hotly contested districts to an unpoular president. if congress falls out of republican control, it becomes that much harder for the Bush WH to be effective in pushing its agenda.

bush is not a dictator; despite holding the presidency (barring impeachment) until 2008, this does not mean that he has a free pass to do whatever he wants until 2008.
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there are a few points.

the first is juvenile, and it's called Schadenfreude, but damn it does feel good. i love the buyer's remorse i'm hearing from the more rational republicans i know, and it also helps to show who's really drunk the Kool-Aid and would blindly follow bush into a burning buildling.

the other reasons is that the president will become a liability for Republican members of congress in 2006. if he is seen as unpopular, then members of congress will seek to distance themselves from him, and his agenda becomes less and less likely to pass, he looses power, becomes, in essence, what is known as a lame duck.

while the presidency is important, it isn't (yet) a dictatorship. for congress to fall out of republican control, the democrats are greatly advantaged if they can link congresspersons in hotly contested districts to an unpoular president. if congress falls out of republican control, it becomes that much harder for the Bush WH to be effective in pushing its agenda.

bush is not a dictator; despite holding the presidency (barring impeachment) until 2008, this does not mean that he has a free pass to do whatever he wants until 2008.
ok.

i think the first point is the best.



another question: why not just go and impeach then?


its so simple.
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another question: why not just go and impeach then?


its so simple.


because the president must be convicted of "high crimes and misdemeanors."

this could mean lying, under oath, about a blow job.

but a conviction, i believe, must be delivered by a court of law.

it is not the same thing as a vote of "no confidence" as in a parlimentary system.
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MAR DEL PLATA, Argentina - Thousands of demonstrators flooded the streets of this seaside resort Friday chanting "Get out Bush"
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because the president must be convicted of "high crimes and misdemeanors."

this could mean lying, under oath, about a blow job.

but a conviction, i believe, must be delivered by a court of law.

it is not the same thing as a vote of "no confidence" as in a parlimentary system.
The impeachment takes place in the House of Representatives.
The trial takes place in the Senate, not a court.

Two Presidents have been impeached and both were not convicted in the Senate.
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The protest also featured Argentine soccer great Diego Maradona and Bolivian presidential hopeful Evo Morales, both of whom travelled to Mar del Plata aboard an overnight train packed with protesters chanting "Fascist Bush! You are the terrorist!"

Smoking cigars given to him by Cuban President Fidel Castro, Maradona said: "We are going to stand against the human trash known as Bush."

Maradona has been angry at the United States since it denied him a visa to visit a drug treatment centre in Miami in the 1990s.

Morales called on the Latin American people to unite to "oppose the politics of hunger and destroy Bush".

The summit also sparked demonstrations in Venezuela and in the Argentine capital of Buenos Aires, where government employees threw anti-Bush fliers from their office windows.

In Caracas, thousands of Venezuelans marched to support Chavez's stance against the Free Trade Area of the Americas. People in march, with was organised by Chavez's party, shouted "Long live Chavez!" and "Bush go home!"
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Good for those Commies. Man, they sure are brave and smart!
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Man, they sure are brave and smart!
Same opinion here
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Theblazer loves commies, lol.
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this could mean lying, under oath, about a blow job.
Like I said, it is so simple. Dems.. wake up. Technology is ten steps ahead of you. Videos wont prove anything in front of a court, but you know.. things get dynamic on their own.. and the media would just love it. And there´s much more creative, active, flexible and funny action than just plain Schadenfreude
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I had a very interesting conversation with my very Republican cousin tonight. He talked about how embarassed he is to be a Republican these days...

Katrina
Hariet Miers
Bush not going to Rosa Parks funeral
Endorsing torture
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He's seriously upset.
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Memo: Staff should adhere to 'spirit' of all rules

Saturday, November 5, 2005; Posted: 5:50 p.m. EST (22:50 GMT)


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- With his chief political aide under investigation as part of a probe into the public unmasking of a CIA operative, President Bush is sending his staff back to school -- ethics school.

Bush is requiring his executive office staff to attend refresher courses on ethics and handling classified materials, according to a White House memo.

"The President has made clear his expectation that each member of his Executive Office of the President (EOP) staff adhere to the spirit as well as the letter of all rules governing ethical conduct for EOP staff," states the memo sent to Bush's staff.

Staff members with security clearances will attend mandatory sessions next week, and those without security clearances will attend mandatory sessions the following week.

The memo went to all EOP staff, which numbers about 3,000, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.

The refresher course comes as Bush's top aide, Karl Rove, is under investigation and as Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, faces indictments in connection with the outing of a CIA operative.
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I'd like to know why this thread is against forum rules....someone cannot support Bush without being called a Troll?! wtf...
No, of course it's not trolling to support Bush. However, common sense would suggest that dropping in a thread like this is asking for trouble, and you know it, and that can fall under trolling.
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Calling people commies is trolling though. I doubt there's a single genuine commie left in all of Interference.
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