concentration of media ownership - Page 2 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-08-2002, 01:18 PM   #16
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
sulawesigirl4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,416
Local Time: 11:04 PM
Gak! That Clear Channel article scares me. Music is already pre-packaged and spoon-fed to the masses for consumption as it is, but this sort of thing would clearly push anyone who doesn't have the money or the ambition to "commercialize" their music to the sidelines of obscurity. Blah, that's just evil. As if we don't have enough Britneys, N'Syncs, et al.
__________________

__________________
sulawesigirl4 is offline  
Old 01-08-2002, 02:36 PM   #17
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
hiphop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: in the jungle
Posts: 7,410
Local Time: 06:04 AM
Well said, Kobayashi. The article is, in fact, already half a year old. The digital radio world is growing fast, but remember that you might compare it with downloads vs. CD´s. CC Communications themselves express it like that:

Our Internet-only radio sites offer our consumers an opportunity to enjoy interactive radio like they have never experienced it before, with unique, high quality offerings in select music formats unavailable anywhere else. They can see our DJ’s live via video streams and chat them up in our “chat-rooms,” giving them instant feedback on their likes, dislikes, requests, and creating unique and loyal music-driven on-line communities.

The Internet, combined with the reach and promotional power of terrestrial radio stations and live entertainment, is a powerful, synergistic tool, providing our sponsors with highly targeted marketing opportunities and a platform for consumer interaction in the context of their favorite entertainment brands, artists, entertainment venues and music.

Local radio provides ongoing marketing outreach to consumers, constantly building our brand’s awareness to drive site traffic, consumer excitement and loyalty through promotions and interaction with on-air personalities.

As the premiere live entertainment Internet destination, CC.com is the consumer’s interactive authority on what’s happening in the world of music, concerts, entertainment destinations, artists and tickets.

The Internet provides an interactive platform through which we can serve and learn more about our consumers to customize their entertainment experience and provide them with compelling content and reasons to keep them coming back. Our sponsors benefit from this intelligence through the effective targeting of messages and offers.

Coordinated cross-platform efforts allow CCI, Clear Channel Entertainment and Clear Channel Radio to create relevant, customized, interactive programs for sponsors to reach and promote goods and services to current and potential customers and markets.

Copyright 2002 Clear Channel Communications,
see also the website, www.clearchannel.com

So I guess that they are thinking long termed... and the influence of "old" radio may not be underestimated...


__________________

__________________
hiphop is offline  
Old 01-09-2002, 03:40 AM   #18
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
Discoteque's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Hotter 'n' hell Texas: Dallas
Posts: 3,568
Local Time: 11:04 PM
After working in the radio industry for a short time, none of this really surprises me. I've been hearing about communications merges, etc. for a long time. Working in radio was VERY eye opening...the things you don't know about when you're on 'this side' just listening...I learned there were two guys (brothers or cousins or something) who started the whole thing where radio stations had to follow a precise formats, what songs to play, WHEN to play them (traffic) and lots of other crap. American radio--and the whole communications industry in general--is extremely limited and limiting to the music and events of the world.

I also remember reading a rather disturbing article in Newsweek a couple years ago - one of those "It's My Turn" articles, written by a journalist who was basically complaining about all the rules, regulations and limits filtered down to him by the communications company he was employed by and the industry in general. One particular line said this (paraphrased) "I wish I had the freedom to say ____, but I am compelled to stay within the guidelines enforced by the Trilateral Commission...." I was like, the Trilateral Commission? WTF? http://trilateral.org:9999/about.htm Why would the Trilateral Commission care about the communications industry??

Well, here's what that website has to say about that:
Quote:
The members of the Trilateral Commission are about 350 distinguished leaders in business, media, academia, public service (excluding current national Cabinet Ministers), labor unions, and other non-governmental organizations from the three regions.
The first word that popped into my head was 'conspiracy,' of course, as far fetched as that sounds. I don't know what to think about all of the media concentrations, but I think it's leading up to something not very good....there's a bunch of interesting stuff out there on the Trilat. Commission...they seem like a *very* shady group...

[This message has been edited by Discoteque (edited 01-09-2002).]
__________________
Discoteque is offline  
Old 01-09-2002, 09:56 AM   #19
ONE
love, blood, life
 
zonelistener's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: six convenient metro locations
Posts: 14,747
Local Time: 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by kobayashi:
oh it's not an internship. unfortunately my school, which is hailed as one of the premier communications schools in the country, has NO internship or co op program for it's communications students.
i had to get the job myself.
which one of the 'beasts'(hehehehe) are you with zonelistener?

The one I detailed above (lol). I think I saw somewhere you work with the HSD product. If so, same here.
__________________
zonelistener is offline  
Old 01-09-2002, 11:57 AM   #20
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
kobayashi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: the ether
Posts: 5,142
Local Time: 12:04 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by zonelistener:
The one I detailed above (lol). I think I saw somewhere you work with the HSD product. If so, same here.
i see.
what do you make of the recent troubles announced?
is it just conflicts of interest in meshing the two corporate cultures or is there some professional opposition from within amongst the employees? or something else entirely?


------------------
itsyourworldyoucanchangeit
__________________
kobayashi is offline  
Old 01-09-2002, 12:04 PM   #21
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
kobayashi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: the ether
Posts: 5,142
Local Time: 12:04 AM
good point hiphop. it is my opinion that 'old' radio will serve as a feeder into the new digital and subscription radio services that are coming both in terms of the talent pool available(though a fair majority seem to be going sans dj) and the style in which they broadcast(top 40, c+w, 'alternative). this is similar to the process undertook by conglomerates consisting of any two media are slowly converging and homogenizing their content(print daily paper and web for instance)

------------------
itsyourworldyoucanchangeit
__________________
kobayashi is offline  
Old 01-09-2002, 12:12 PM   #22
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
kobayashi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: the ether
Posts: 5,142
Local Time: 12:04 AM
it's funny. i had a discussion with one of my professors this morning and i was telling him about this discussion and my analysis of bell globemedia. he told me of an article he read from the US that expressed admiration for bell globemedia.
the article said an american equivalent of bell would be the same company owning 1. at+t for landline phone use, 2. aol for internet, 3. nbc as one of the major networks in a nation, 4. DirecTV as the biggest DB satellite network, 5. the new york times as one of the nations premier daily newspaper and finally 6. sprint wireless or verizon wireless(i'm not sure which is the biggest but bell mobility is definetely top 2 in wireless communications in canada.
the existence of such a company would be considered unacceptable in the u.s. however that is the stranglehold bell globemedia has grabbed on canada.

------------------
itsyourworldyoucanchangeit
__________________
kobayashi is offline  
Old 01-10-2002, 01:19 PM   #23
sv
The Fly
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 229
Local Time: 04:04 AM
And guess who Clear Channel's posterboys are?
__________________
sv is offline  
Old 01-10-2002, 02:49 PM   #24
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
sulawesigirl4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,416
Local Time: 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by sv:
And guess who Clear Channel's posterboys are?
U2?
__________________
sulawesigirl4 is offline  
Old 01-10-2002, 02:54 PM   #25
ONE
love, blood, life
 
zonelistener's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: six convenient metro locations
Posts: 14,747
Local Time: 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by sulawesigirl4:
U2?
At least for 2001!
__________________
zonelistener is offline  
Old 01-11-2002, 03:17 AM   #26
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
sulawesigirl4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,416
Local Time: 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by zonelistener:
At least for 2001!
They're not boys. They're postermen.
__________________
sulawesigirl4 is offline  
Old 01-11-2002, 03:28 AM   #27
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
kobayashi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: the ether
Posts: 5,142
Local Time: 12:04 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by sulawesigirl4:
They're not boys. They're postermen.
the best postermen.

the best jerry,
the best.

------------------
i was born for your magazine
i am trapped in the society page of your magazine
__________________

__________________
kobayashi is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com