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Old 02-07-2003, 09:26 AM   #16
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He's like his father: somewhat clever on the foreign affairs and clueless as all hell on domestic affairs. National polls indicate that the general public believes this as well. Of course, since I think daddy Bush is running the show through Dick Cheney...

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you forgot about mentioning his cute part.
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He has said in the past that he would not run unless his whole family was for it and he was not too crazy about putting them threw the whole rig-a-ma-row that is involved.
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Doesn't it say something that so many in this thread are willing to vote for a man whose stance on most political issues remains largely unknown?
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the problem is this: george bush is an idiot...
STILL trying to figure out how:

-An MBA from a prestigious university,
-Success in running several large corporations AND
-Leading the United States of America as President through the largest single terrorist attack ever

makes you an "idiot"...

I dare say you will not accomplish 1/100 of this in your life.
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-Success in running several large corporations AND
Please define, "success."

Edited to add: Sure he led the country through its worst terrorist attack ever. He was our president when we were attacked. For him to continue to be our president (read: leader) after that event was the least he could do.
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STILL trying to figure out how:

-An MBA from a prestigious university,
-Success in running several large corporations AND
-Leading the United States of America as President through the largest single terrorist attack ever

makes you an "idiot"...

I dare say you will not accomplish 1/100 of this in your life.
I would dare say that too.

and I would still die at peace with who I am.

but I'm no idiot.
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Old 02-07-2003, 02:41 PM   #23
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-An MBA from a prestigious university
Daddy got him in, and the uni handed him a degree.

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-Success in running several large corporations
"Success"? His business ventures were failures.

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-Leading the United States of America as President through the largest single terrorist attack ever
What did he do that another president wouldn't have done?

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Old 02-07-2003, 03:31 PM   #24
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The President should be good at foreign Affairs since the Presidency is essentially a foreign policy position. The Presidents powers in regards to foreign policy and national security are way ahead of the Presidents ability to effect domestic policy. When you vote for President, Foreign Policy and National Security should be the things you look at first, because the Presidents ability to effect those area's is greatest.
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Daddy got him in, and the uni handed him a degree.



"Success"? His business ventures were failures.



What did he do that another president wouldn't have done?

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I second the motion of the member from Boston.

His business ventures were successes? Scratching head!
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The President should be good at foreign Affairs since the Presidency is essentially a foreign policy position. The Presidents powers in regards to foreign policy and national security are way ahead of the Presidents ability to effect domestic policy. When you vote for President, Foreign Policy and National Security should be the things you look at first, because the Presidents ability to effect those area's is greatest.
I disagree in part. The Presidency, should, foremost, be about domestic policy. We elect the President of the United States, not the President of Everywhere Outside the United States.

I agree in many parts with the way foreign policy has been handled, and I agree that a tough stance has to be taken on Saddam Hussein. Diplomatically, it has been known that you have to be brutal with this man words-wise, because, otherwise, he'll walk all over you.

However, I disagree with the way this has been handled in regards to the "secrecy" aspect to this presidency and I think his domestic policy is atrocious. Thank goodness the Republican Party didn't get its way in the late 1990s and pushed through a balanced-budget amendment, because it is clear that Bush doesn't know how to stick to one. He left Texas with a monster-sized debt as well, and, as it appears, he'll leave the U.S. with one that rivals the one that Reagan left us.

Without the war on terrorism, Bush is an ineffectually bad president, and he knows this. He'll milk this war for all it is worth.

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Melon,

The President is the Commander In Chief. There is nothing that can effect the United States more than threats to our security and international security. We live in a Global interdependent world. The President, not members of congress, is the one that deals with foreign leaders on a regular basis.

Just look at the powers the president has compared to the powers that members of congress have. I'm more likely to effect the community I live in by dealing with local and state representitives or perhaps my congressional representitive than by attempting to get the President to look at the situation here.

Just look at the amount of time any President must spend exclusively on Foreign Policy and national security compared to a Senator or Representitive. There is no other elected official that must deal with foreign Policy more than the President. There for, your #1 issue when voting for President should be Foreign Policy and National Security. Someone like your Representitive should be voted on primarily for thoughts on domestic policy than foreign policy, because their ability to effect things in that area especially where you live is greater in regards to their ability to effect Foreign Policy.
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That is an ideal world, but it appears that our Congress merely regurgitates the ideas of the Bush Administration.

But if you are right, that is the problem of our Republican-controlled Congress, and we should vote them out to put in a Congress that will deal with domestic issues, and let the foreign policy matters deal with the President...

...but I don't know many Republicans who like that idea. Let's face it. We're going to get nothing done with our economy. We might as well have a recession until Bush is either voted out or term limits kick in.

(Let's see how many degrees I can amass in the meantime...)

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Old 02-09-2003, 07:59 PM   #30
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Powell is a very well spoken puppet.

Having said this, I also have to say that deep down I like him, as a leader, and not a puppet.

If he is a true republican, he will wait to run until 2008.

HOWEVER

If I were Powell, I would resign in 6 months, change my affiliation, and take Bush down.
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