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Old 01-31-2006, 08:46 PM   #1
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Cindy Sheehan Arrested by Capitol Police

according to CNN... news to come.
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apparently she unfurlled an anti-war banner while inside the house chamber (she was invited as a guest by a democratic representitive), which is apparently against house law
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It was apparently a T-shirt she was wearing, not a banner, according to AP.

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Did she unfurl her T-shirt?
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The shirt say like 2,242 dead, how many more?

Honestly I don't get what is so wrong about wearing an anti war shirt, she was a guest and is entitled to her right to free speech.
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a middleage woman gets arrested for wearing a t-shirt


yep, freedom is on the march
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Perhaps she can save her shtick for her run against Hillary.
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a middleage woman gets arrested for wearing a t-shirt


yep, freedom is on the march
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Sheehan, who was invited to attend the speech by Rep. Lynn Woolsey (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., was charged with demonstrating in the Capitol building, said Capitol Police Sgt. Kimberly Schneider. The charge was later changed to unlawful conduct, Schneider said. Both charges are misdemeanors.

Schneider said Sheehan had worn a T-shirt with an anti-war slogan to the speech and covered it up until she took her seat. Police warned her that such displays were not allowed, but she did not respond, the spokeswoman said.
A seemingly reasonable limitation, the absence of which would lead to perpetual disruptions during nation-wide speeches.
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Damn...she blew it!!!!!

All she had to do was sit politely.....

And start shouting out in the middle of the speech....

Wow!
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what that guy said.
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i have such mixed feelings on Ms. Sheehan.

i admire her chutzpah, i admire her being a pain in the ass of W, i admire how silly and stupid she made him look while camped out last summer, i admire her willingness to take her son's death and transform it into something that she sees as positive and worthwhile, i admire the moral authority she does have as a mother who has lost a child in battle, i admire her basic pretext -- the war is a big fucking mistake and people are dying for bad reasons -- and i admire her willingness to stick her neck out.

however, i wish the woman had more tact, and frankly, a more nuanced understanding of world events and the iraq war. her whole, "i'm a mother, so i'm speaking as a mother" gets old and increasingly transparent when you realize how unsophistocated her political stance is.

she also needs better handlers.

what would have been more effective would have been for her not to be a t-shirt, but for her to sit silently, not clapping, stone-faced, when ever Bush said anything, especially pertaining to Iraq. that would have been a much more trenchant image, and the media would have kept cutting to her, allowing her, through sielnce, to effectively undermine the president's steaming pile of verbal horseshit.

so sad she botched it up. again. and has made herself into a clown, an easy pinata for the right wing -- who obviously have no problems mocking the mother of a dead soldier.
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I agree w/ everything you said, Irvine.

The "mother" thing annoys me after a while as well, especially since the soldiers/marines are grown men and women able to make their own life choices. For one, I find it almost disrespectful to those men and women. Enlisting was not my choice, but I respect those that chose that path and were willing to die for my freedoms. I'm sympathetic for Sheehan's loss, but sometimes it gets to the point where I feel like she's exploited her son's death. Would she feel this strongly against the war if her son had returned home safe? Probably not. For Sheehan, it's become too emotional and personal for her to tackfully and effectively make sense politically.
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her whole, "i'm a mother, so i'm speaking as a mother" gets old and increasingly transparent when you realize how unsophistocated her political stance is.

she also needs better handlers.
Doesn't this strike you as a contradiction (not your statement, but Sheehan's stance and position)?

The genuine aspects of her loss would appear to lose strength when there are those behind the scene "manufacturing" the image.
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Doesn't this strike you as a contradiction (not your statement, but Sheehan's stance and position)?

The genuine aspects of her loss would appear to lose strength when there are those behind the scene "manufacturing" the image.


i think that's what's getting at me.

i think all image is manufactured, and if she were much more media-savvy, she's try to maintain an image of being above the fray, of speaking from the heart, a sort of dignified symbol of senseless loss. you cannot get away from the manufacturing of an image, it's just how skillfully you do it. she'd be much more effective as a spokeswoman that way, instead of advocating specific policy positions.

i would also say, though, that her position is weakened by political pundits emphasizing those behind the scenes -- it's a great way to knock her down without being too mean about it, calling her a poor woman who's greiving and being manipualted by forces beyond her control and understanding.
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Florida Rep.'s Wife Says She Was Ejected From State Of Union

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ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- The wife of Rep. C.W. Bill Young, R-Indian Shores, told a newspaper that she was ejected during the State of the Union address for wearing a T-shirt that says, "Support the Troops Defending Our Freedom."

Beverly Young told the St. Petersburg Times that she was sitting in the front row of the House gallery Tuesday night when she was approached by someone who told her she needed to leave.

She said she reluctantly agreed, but argued with several officers in an outside hallway.

In a telephone interview with the newspaper, Young said she told them her shirt wasn't a protest but a message of support.

Capitol Police Sgt. Kimberly Schneider said Young wasn't ejected from the gallery and she left on her own. She couldn't provide additional details.

Young's husband found out about the incident after Bush's speech and called it unacceptable.
something smelled funny when I read this....
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