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Old 05-08-2006, 09:01 PM   #1
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Christians Should Follow the ACLU / Libertarians on this one...

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In the U.S. this was attached to another bill and President Bush
blessed it, and all those wonderful informative news channels
said little or nothing.


Have you heard about it?
*in the States*

Europe, I think, is trying the same thing.
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The government has been pushing biometric ID for a while now, it won't stop terrorism, it will help collect taxes and fines.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but what does one's faith have to do with this?
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God is the ultimate big brother.
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Christians who believe in the rapture believe that state-issued IDs that are somehow linked to 666 will come about sometime around the rapture. Good christians will, of course, resist these IDs.
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I should add that I think this whole idea is just stupid, intrusive, and will end up somehow hurting marginalized individuals. It's frightening. When I was in London several years ago I couldn't believe Blair was actually trying to get these sort of IDs passed.
While I believe the government should provide universal health care, assist the poor (really assist, not America's current system of welfare - what a joke for the poor), tax the rich far more than the poor, I am opposed to anything like total intrusion on private lives.
While I think the notion of a rapture is a bit silly, I agree with conservative christians that these kinds of IDs are evil.
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Christians who believe in the rapture believe that state-issued IDs that are somehow linked to 666 will come about sometime around the rapture. Good christians will, of course, resist these IDs.
Are you serious?
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Are you serious?
Every time this sort of thing comes up on Christian messageboards, regardless of the original poster's intent, the thread morphs into a discussion about how it's the "mark of the beast" and is a "sign of the times" and will be used after the Rapture by the Antichrist to control everyone. Anyone who takes the "mark of the beast" is damned to Hell.

Pop theology at its hilarious worst.
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Every time this sort of thing comes up on Christian messageboards, regardless of the original poster's intent, the thread morphs into a discussion about how it's the "mark of the beast" and is a "sign of the times" and will be used after the Rapture by the Antichrist to control everyone. Anyone who takes the "mark of the beast" is damned to Hell.

Pop theology at its hilarious worst.
i've met many people in person with those opinions.

credit cards are also the mark of the beast.
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Christians who believe in the rapture believe that state-issued IDs that are somehow linked to 666 will come about sometime around the rapture. Good christians will, of course, resist these IDs.
Similar arguments have been raised regarding Social Security Numbers.

There is a continual effort to try and understand the writings in the Book of Revelation and other prophetic writings in Scripture. This is no more than a misguided attempt to quantify the various milestones as described in Scripture (we should not be trying to guess "when", etc.).

It is a difficult command to be "prepared" yet not try to guess "when".
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Similar arguments have been raised regarding Social Security Numbers.

There is a continual effort to try and understand the writings in the Book of Revelation and other prophetic writings in Scripture. This is no more than a misguided attempt to quantify the various milestones as described in Scripture (we should not be trying to guess "when", etc.).

It is a difficult command to be "prepared" yet not try to guess "when".
I'm so retarded. I meant to write earlier that I wish I wasn't joking to BVS. Oh well....

Here's my take:
The book of Revelations is an apocryphal account of the fall of the roman empire. Jews and Christians alike were fearful of being spied and "dog-tagged" so to speak, by the Romans.
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i've met many people in person with those opinions.
I feel sorry for you. I haven't personally met anyone quite that crazy, though I've known a few fans of the Left Behind series.

It just appals me that there are actually people who listen when "theologians" advise them to read Revelation like a newspaper. However did those dolts pass Bible school? It's 2nd century Apocalyptic literature - read it how it was intended to be read! You wouldn't try to read a PhD thesis like it's a Shakespearean play or a modern action thriller like it's Time magazine, would you?
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