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Old 05-11-2006, 12:04 AM   #16
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I feel sorry for you. I haven't personally met anyone quite that crazy, though I've known a few fans of the Left Behind series.
a few years ago we went to a church full of them, i was around them all the time.

i could've easily become one.
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On the subject of the mark of the beast, for my religious right course we just read an article that talks about how some fundamentalists thought Mikhail Gorbachev's birth mark was the mark of the beast .
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On the subject of the mark of the beast, for my religious right course we just read an article that talks about how some fundamentalists thought Mikhail Gorbachev's birth mark was the mark of the beast .
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the mark of the beast is not a laughing matter

Don't you see the connection between Social Security and Mikhail Gorbachev?

taking money and redistributing it is a Socialist program.

And Socialism was out to destroy America, one nation under God.
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I think that Antipas Ministries is evidence that religious foolishness is not the exclusive domain of one political group.
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On the subject of the mark of the beast, for my religious right course we just read an article that talks about how some fundamentalists thought Mikhail Gorbachev's birth mark was the mark of the beast .
And the godless red horde is coming to abort and eat all good American Christian babies, right?
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Not all Christians believe that the scriptures teach a pretribulational "taking away" or rapture of Christians.

I am one of them. It is, in my opinion , a false teaching.

I think the Left Behind series is a great cash cow(for the authors) and also very unscriptural.


I want to encourage Christians who have been taught this and all others interested, to do some reading and study on this subject.
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Are you questioning whether the rapture takes place, or just the timing of the rapture?
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"Are you questioning whether the rapture takes place, or just the timing of the rapture?"

Yes, I believe there will a taking away of the church, but I believe
the scriptures teach this happens, at some point, after the appearance of the Anti-Christ.

I think, for example, this is very clear at the end of the I Thessalonians and chapter two of II Thessalonians.
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It's funny out of ALL the "ministries" you could attack you would pick Antipas Ministries??? Not Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Tim LaHaye, Ron Luce etc. etc. Although I think that some of Antipas Ministries beliefs are pretty way out there they make alot more sense than the typical American Fundamentalist Evangelical "ministries" that I've ever come across. In fact some of stuff they have to say about these right wing "Christians" makes perfect sense - not to mention what they say about George W. Bush, Iran, Iraq, the religious right, corporate America etc. etc. Although I am not a "member" of this ministry I happen to take many of the things they have to say quite seriously. Not everything they have to say - but certainly some of it.
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Skeptical, rational thinking leads one to believe the rapture
is one of many myths propagated by various groups to further their agenda.

I will predict that all reading these words will die a human death,
as all their predecessors have


The first followers of Christ were apocalyptic and expected not to experience physical death.
They also expected to see the return of Christ and the rapture in their lifetime
That is what they believed "the scriptures" said.
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You see everything as an "agenda".

Plenty of skeptical, rational thinkers have analyzed Revelation and try to give understanding to its words.

The first followers of Christ did what many do today - get ready.
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The Rapture is an evangelical Protestant concept born out of 19th century America, thus being a theology I never believed in.

I believe it best to take the advice that St. Paul gave to the "Left Behind"ers of his day: stop worrying about it and live your life.

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The first followers of Christ did what many do today - get ready.
By building some kind of Evangelical Disneyland in Israel?
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