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Old 03-28-2004, 01:46 PM   #121
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And i supposse they're the vast majority? Tell me, how many of these animals had a "natural" growth or how many of them have some sort of mental disorder?
I don't recall hearing anything of the sort when hearing about this stuff, no. It's just that the fact that some animals exhibit this behavior should at least perhaps point to the fact that it may be seen as something that is as natural as heterosexuality.

Also, another thing to consider when bringing up the reproduction argument: what about all the straight couples who are unable to have children biologically? Or the couples who have no intention of ever having children? Are their relationships automatically an "aberration" because they aren't contributing to the population?

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Old 03-28-2004, 02:01 PM   #122
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That is a fallacy. Most straight couples can biologically have children whereas NO homosexual couple can ever naturally conceive a child.
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Old 03-28-2004, 02:13 PM   #123
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It's time to let this guy crawl back into his little hole of safety and purity.
Yes, I suppose that is what you do when you run out of arguments.
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Which means it isn't cool...yet
You've never been to the UK, have you?

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Old 03-28-2004, 02:24 PM   #125
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You want evidence as to why being a homosexual is an aberratiion? The most obvious of all. Homosexuals cannot possibly biologically mate. Impossible. And you're saying that in spite of this, homosexuality was still "meant to be"?
Let's face the facts. Homosexuals exist, both in human nature and in the animal kingdom. It is well-documented, so you can make all the arguments that you want; it exists, and, thus, it is natural.

The only "aberration" is the cultural construct of "perfection." It is also a greater fallacy to elevate one's cultural constructs--"Homosexuality is an aberration"--to the level of science, when nature, itself, proves you to be a fool.

Certainly, it may not be biologically advantageous to be homosexual, but, with <=10% of the population being gay, the >=90% of the world that is heterosexual can more than populate the world. After all, we don't have any shortages of people in this world; in case you haven't been paying attention for the past 50 years, the Earth has problems with overpopulation. That *doesn't* change the fact that nature is diverse, for whatever reason.

You cannot ignore reality, in favor of elevating your prejudices. That's what we have to tell racists too, because they see racial minorities as being an "aberration" as well.

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That is a fallacy. Most straight couples can biologically have children whereas NO homosexual couple can ever naturally conceive a child.
Yes, most can, but the fact remains that there are a few heterosexual couples out there who, no matter what they do, are unable to have a child the biological way. And there's also still the matter of all the heterosexual couples out there who have chosen to never have children. So once again, are their relationships an aberration, too?

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Yes, I suppose that is what you do when you run out of arguments.
No, dear; it's how I deal with people who consistently express homophobic, childish, and untrue beliefs.

Have fun with yourself. I hope your god is a forgiving one.
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i shouldnt be in this thread...but i can't help this one.

its meant to be that straight couples are supposed to be able to physically procreate. but we all know thats not always the case.

gays are not meant to physically procreate.

i think thats the point browneyedboy's trying to make.
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i shouldnt be in this thread...but i can't help this one.

its meant to be that straight couples are supposed to be able to physically procreate. but we all know thats not always the case.

gays are not meant to physically procreate.

i think thats the point browneyedboy's trying to make.
Hmmm...I think that is a bit off the mark.

I think BrownEyedBoy is saying that homosexuals aren't meant to be at all.
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I think BrownEyedBoy is saying that homosexuals aren't meant to be at all.

well, yes i realize that, but i was actually responding to moonlit angel's reply.
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Well, you're both right.
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i think thats the point browneyedboy's trying to make.
Watch whom you defend, Icelle. Check out his last post here. You might want to think about him and his views more seriously.
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oh, im not defending him.

his "i think two men kissing are disgusting" comment has infuriated me beyond belief.
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And you show a lacking ability to comprehend my posts.

I never said it was cool. I said Which means it isn't cool...yet
Oh! Maybe you could tell me what the autumn colours are going to cool this year too, I am already planning my new wardrobe.

Maybe some nice gay colours.
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oh, im not defending him.

his "i think two men kissing are disgusting" comment has infuriated me beyond belief.
I understand.
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