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Old 03-27-2004, 10:22 PM   #91
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Sheer *reality* has proven that women are just as capable of teaching as any man is, if not better, in individual cases.
I agree with this 100%. But we also hold this reality to what we see as a command from God (for loving God means obeying His commands). It is a struggle to balance the two.
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I agree with this 100%. But we also hold this reality to what we see as a command from God (for loving God means obeying His commands). It is a struggle to balance the two.
"Obeying His commands." But, when the only commandment (and "law") is to "love one another," as St. Paul puts it repeatedly, then it really isn't so hard, is it?

But "love" is both the easiest and the hardest commandment to fulfill; easy, because it doesn't involve digging through 1000+ pages of arcane babble, and hard because it involves us thinking about what love means, and, thus, being forced to evaluate that our own beliefs, for better or for worse, may not live up to that standard.

I dunno...maybe after having studied philosophy for so long, the concept of "love" doesn't seem to come that difficult for me anymore. I guess I really don't understand why it is so difficult for others.

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I dunno...maybe after having studied philosophy for so long, the concept of "love" doesn't seem to come that difficult for me anymore. I guess I really don't understand why it is so difficult for others.

I haven't studied philosophy and love isn't difficult for me. What is difficult for me to understand is how people can exclude, deny, and subjugate in the name of love, claiming all the while to be following the lead of the One who personified Love.
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What is difficult for me to understand is how people can exclude, deny, and subjugate in the name of love, claiming all the while to be following the lead of the One who personified Love.
That's easy- fear.
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Good point.
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I haven't studied philosophy and love isn't difficult for me. What is difficult for me to understand is how people can exclude, deny, and subjugate in the name of love, claiming all the while to be following the lead of the One who personified Love.
. Same with what FizzingWhizzbees and melon have said.

In regards to your answer, MrBrau1...that's what really confuses me. Why do some people have so much fear regarding issues like this? What exactly is it about homosexuals that they're so afraid of?

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. Same with what FizzingWhizzbees and melon have said.

In regards to your answer, MrBrau1...that's what really confuses me. Why do some people have so much fear regarding issues like this? What exactly is it about homosexuals that they're so afraid of?

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They think if gay people become really mainstream and accepted, then their kids will become gay, and go to hell.
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No.
Personally (and I say this because I don't like to speak for others even though I think many will agree with me) I think it is wrong to be gay. There. If you don't agree, as I know most of you will, well then try making a case about how "right" it is to be gay.
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But why is it wrong, though? I've never heard a good answer as to why it's wrong. What exactly is it about two men or two women loving each other that is so bad? They're not hurting anybody, so what exactly is the problem?

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You're meaning to tell me you see nothing wrong with two men kissing?? I think it's disgusting. But that is only my opinion.
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You're meaning to tell me you see nothing wrong with two men kissing??
No. It might take me a second to get used to seeing two men or two women being affectionate, just because I don't see it all that often where I live, but it doesn't disgust me or anything. As a matter of fact, I remember seeing the two guys kissing in that "Beautiful" video by Christina Aguilera, and I actually thought it was kinda sweet, the way they were being affectionate to each other. It really doesn't bother me.

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I think it's disgusting. But that is only my opinion.
Exactly, that's your opinion. But just because you personally find it disgusting, that does not mean that homosexuals should not be allowed to be together. Some homosexuals might find the idea of two people of the opposite sex disgusting, but those people wouldn't like it if they tried to stop them from doing so, right? So I don't understand why some people think they have the right to stop homosexuals from being together just because it personally grosses them out.

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I think it is wrong to be gay.
I think it is wrong to be Honduran. There. If you don't agree, then make your case for it to be "right" to be Honduran.
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That's not very smart. It's completely irrelevant.
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You're meaning to tell me you see nothing wrong with two men kissing?? I think it's disgusting. But that is only my opinion.

Then don't watch.
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That's not very smart. It's completely irrelevant.
I think it's a fine argument. . How is it not relevant?

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