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Old 09-05-2006, 06:50 PM   #61
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You may be a fascist without being a terrorist, but can you be a terrorist without being a fascist?
Yes.

Those that are using these terms interchangeably need to buy a dictionary.
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Old 09-05-2006, 07:36 PM   #62
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Well of course.
I don't think the honest answer is "of course" for many people who are against taking out the swearing. I think that if I posted a topic "Censoring 9/11: They took out the spoken prayers", I think that I would be laughed at and scoffed and ridiculed.
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Go ahead and feel persecuted then. But I extend Constitutional protections to all, not just those I agree with. Which is more than you can say for these "family" groups.
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Old 09-05-2006, 07:54 PM   #64
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I don't think the honest answer is "of course" for many people who are against taking out the swearing. I think that if I posted a topic "Censoring 9/11: They took out the spoken prayers", I think that I would be laughed at and scoffed and ridiculed.
And I think you are playing victim...

I hear this a lot, but funny enough never see it.
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You may be a fascist without being a terrorist, but can you be a terrorist without being a fascist?
Yes, of course. However, ultra-liberal terrorism is generally a smaller phenomenon. The Earth Liberation Front (ELF) is a modern example, while the Québec Liberation Front (FLQ) was a Canadian example in the 1960s.

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I think 80s U2IsTheBest's scenario is quite reasonable; I don't think it would be too far-fetched for some producer or affiliate to say "We don't need to include those prayers because it may inflame some religious sensitivities." Obviously, we haven't heard reports of it happening, but it wouldn't absolutely shock me. Some people may say "This show shouldn't seek to advance certain spiritual beliefs."

I don't think 80sU2IsTheBest is being ridiculous at all.

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I understood the call of "being ridiculous" was to 80s thinking he'd be laughed at, scoffed at and ridiculed if he posted that prayers had been cut from a documentary.
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And I think you are playing victim...

I hear this a lot, but funny enough never see it.
Nope, I am basing this on reactions I have seen toward issues of in this forum.

Just today, someone called the belief in God "foolish". There are many times that I have seen people who do not believe in God ridicule those who do believe in God. Why would I think it would be any different if the subject were prayers in a movie?
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Nope, I am basing this on reactions I have seen issues of faith get in these forums.

Just today, someone called the belief in God "foolish". There are many times that I have seen people who do not believe in God ridicule those who do believe in God. Why would I think it would be any different if the subject were prayers in a movie?
What do these have to do with each other? Despite what that poster believes if he was a good documentary maker and was documenting this what would they gain by taking out or censoring prayer?

That's the point I don't get, what would someone gain?
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I'm pretty sure there's a Sting2 quote somewhere that gave the imprimateur of approval to terrorist tactics in certain limited cases (eg. the American Revolutionary War). And America isn't a fascist nation, right?

Oh god this shit is just so fucking INSANE! Swear words!?? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, there's some profanity (born of frustration) from this morally relativist librul to your ears, gang.
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Guerilla warfare is not terrorism, there is a distinction.
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god, who fucking cares? i'm not saying this to be ironic. really, who cares. what is ironic is the 9/11 thing is on at the moment, and when you watch the recreations of the MS delegates on floor 107, who DOES honestly care about some swearing? if anyone does, then they have issues. that's some fucked up sense of importance right there.
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You know, I don't know why these FCC complaints even work anymore. I mean, these "family" organizations got what they wanted a few years back. They got their detailed TV ratings and their V-Chips, so if they want to "protect their children," they can use their V-Chip to ban absolutely everything that isn't "TV-Y."

I mean, why are we letting the most conservative of people in this country consistently dictate to the rest of us what we can't do all the time? If they don't like it, they don't have to watch.

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Do 'we' own television networks?
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Seems like some special interest groups own tv networks
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