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Old 04-14-2005, 11:00 AM   #1
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Celebrities & Politics: Round 2

Ages ago, I had a Celebrities & Politics thread. Now that we seem to have a few more conservative posters who aren't in to celebrity worship, I think we can have a discussion.

ONE RULE THOUGH: We will not discuss Bono or anyone else heavily involved in Africa. They're walking the walk, while this thread is about those who talk the talk.

So the top question as of now: DO CELEBRITY OPINIONS MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU?

My answer is no, I can think for myself.
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Old 04-14-2005, 11:26 AM   #2
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a celebrity opinion might make me take notice of an issue. i'll then think about it, and make up my own mind.
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Old 04-14-2005, 11:33 AM   #3
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Most of the time, it's absolutely rubbish to me. Here and there, they might say something worthwhile. Still, I don't give celebrities the equivalent of a master's degree, unless they devote their lives to a noble cause.
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but isn't it also wrong to assume that simply because one is a celebirty their opinion matters *less* than the average person's?
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but isn't it also wrong to assume that simply because one is a celebirty their opinion matters *less* than the average person's?
I suppose so, although I wouldn't say that an average person's opinion matters more than a celebrity's. Unless the "average person" has a double master's degree and a crystal ball.
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a celebrity opinion might make me take notice of an issue. i'll then think about it, and make up my own mind.
Ditto. And that same rule applies to non-celebrity opinions I hear, too. If I find a person and I agree on an issue, great. If we don't, that's fine, too.

Bottom line is that they still have as much right as anyone else does to express their views-I don't understand this idea some people in this world have about how celebrities should keep their mouths shut on an issue (boy, good thing our parents' generation didn't have that attitude back in the 60s and 70s when musicians were singing about the Vietnam War), 'cause, hey, nobody said you have to agree with them.

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No, you don't have to agree with them. I like that rule. Yet personally I lose interest in music and so forth when every album on the shelves is "F*ck George Bush."

I admit that I find their opinions useless for the most part, but from time to time I give them credit. More than half the time I think to myself, "what do they know?" Other times, they might have something worthwhile.

I guess my beef is with those who believe that celebrities are and forever shall be our political saviors.
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A degree doesn't mean shit to me when it comes to a cause. Why is that a celebrity is automatically reduced to a less intelligent human. I've seen celebrities who are much more educated on certain issues than politicians. I think dismissing a celebrity is just as bad as dismissing someone because they are female or blonde.

Plus let's face it would you rather here an athlete talk about some cause or someone you've never heard who looks like the guy in high school who never washed his hair? If they are both passionate and educated about the subject it's really a no brainer.
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I think when celebrities open their mouths it is sometimes obvious if they are just jumping on some bandwagon. Those who are educated about their issue are sometimes less vocal and in your face and seek to educate people in other ways. For example, Sting's work regarding the rainforests appears to have more depth because he does more than just mouth off about "No blood for oil" while driving off with his posse in an suv.
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Celebrities wouldn't influence me how to vote one way or the other.
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Celebrities bring attention to an issue, like it or not. Some are knowledgeable while others are just waving and looking pretty. Look at the awareness level increase in spinal cord disabilities and parkinson's disease as a result of celebrities being afflicted.

But like mentioned above, free country ain't it, they can say whatever they want, no one has to listen. And if people blindly follow them, oh well.
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Celebrities should be careful what they say because they have a heavy influence on a certain group of people. That said, they shouldn't be taken too seriously. That also being said, their opinions shouldn't necessarily be discredited. We're all bad-tempered humans underneath it all, right?
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If a celebrity is educated and truly passionate about what they're talking about, I'm interested. If they're humble about it, that really gets my attention. I saw Angelina Jolie on CSpan talking about her work, and I found it so refreshing that she freely admitted when she didn't know the answer to a particular question, and she said many things she approaches w/ her heart and not her head. I liked that.

I just can't stand a celebrity who acts like he/she knows it all and he/she doesn't, or just jumps on a particular bandwagon for personal benefit.

I don't dismiss a celebrity's opinion just because they're famous, but sometimes some of them get so pompous and overbearing that I dismiss them. But I do that for non-celebrities too.
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I can't exactly say that Bono is the only celebrity who's influenced my opinion. Chris Martin isn't nearly as talented in the diplomacy department as Bono is, but he's pretty damn smart about the whole fair trade issue. He got me started with Oxfam the way Bono got me started with AIDS in Africa and wells. Those are the only two celebs who have ever influenced me politically. It's just a coincidence most of the time that these guys tend to be liberals, and so am I. By the same token I think it's stupid to dislike a celebrity just because I don't like their politics. They might be a great singer or actor. That's their life; their politics is their own damn business and none of mine.
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I've never been a fan of the Hollywood "star system." I think they ruin most movies, rather than make them better. They exist to epitomize the crux of modern American society: "image over substance."

Since I think so negatively of celebrities and their "acting ability," it stands to reason that I also don't care what they say politically. Republicans, however, are as guilty as Democrats can be. They'll whine about celebrities and their mostly "liberal leanings," but then become equally star-struck the minute a Republican-leaning celebrity opens his/her mouth. And that's why Arnold is governor of California.

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