CBC Sunday Night will never gain viewership in southern states

[trevster2k]

It is a news program on in Canada. It is broadcast by the Canadian Broadcasting Company which is funded by the federal government.

I just finished watching a documentary about the struggle for gay rights in Iran. And I thought gay people in our society had it rough, sheesh, 100 lashes as punishment if arrested along with of course secret trials. 2 young men were executed last year in Iran for being gay too. Late last year, the head of the gay organization had to flee Iran and has been designated a refugee by the UN. Anyway, that was a unique story for news coverage.

Now, they are showing a story about attempts to breed two giant pandas in Thailand. The male has to lose 20lbs or he might crush the female and they have separated them hoping absence makes the heart grow fonder. And then they plan on showing panda pornography hoping the male learns the proper posture. Didn't look that titillating to me but I'm not a giant panda.

So gay rights in an axis of Evil country and animal porn, Canada is so avant garde.

 

[martha]

It's those long winters.

 

[Angela Harlem]

It's those long winters.

well, there's certainly no such thing as global warming, that's for sure. Programmes like these are the effect of a decayed and decadent society which places no value at all on purity.

 

[Axver]

You dirty sinners in Kanadiastan are all going to Hell because God loves you.

 

[yolland]

Sorry to shatter your image of drooling retarded inbreds watching the prayer channel, but I've seen primetime programming on both these topics on CNN (which is based in Georgia ) and I don't even own a television, so that's just random coincidental stuff I saw at friends' houses. That's great CBC did programs on it, I'm sure they were well-done and all that but I'm not sure why you apparently think Americans would panic and run screaming if a show about this was on.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

I guess it's just some sort of "Canada is superior in that way and more enlightened" and all that I don't get it really or see the need for it- I'm sure there are plenty of people in Canada who aren't, plenty of people in the US who are..etc. Seems like stereotyped thinking to me, honestly this thread reeks of it. I'm sure I'll be jumped on for saying that instead of just saying nothing.

 

[trevster2k]

Gawd!! it's a joke, get over it!!

But yes, Canadian broadcasting standards are different than the U.S. Not better or worse but different.

We do allow nudity and swearing on non-cable tv during prime time amongst other things.

Lock the thread since I have hurt so many feelings.

 

[deep]

if you give me the choice of gay rights in an axis of Evil country plus animal porn or Jesus, I’ll take Jesus.

 

[yolland]

^ Personally I preferred the panda porn, but then I've always had an interest in pandas.

I don't see anyone sobbing trev, and that wasn't my point. I'll take you at your word that it was just a joke, but frankly that excuse gets tossed around a bit too often with this kind of thing and it's hard to know how seriously to take it sometimes. No offense taken though.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

No need really to say "get over it" and it didn't come across as a joke-you can't get that from an internet post without any clear indication. And maybe in the history of FYM there has been so much of that sort of Canada/US stuff that some people just get tired of it, and of being stereotyped. So maybe try to see it from that point of view.. The southern states reference certainly is a stereotype, is it not?

 

[deep]

The southern states reference certainly is a stereotype, is it not?

I think
they earned it

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

Yes, because we all know deep that all people who live in Southern states believe certain things, behave in certain ways, etc.

Well we even have some people right here in good ol' FYM who shatter that stereotype.

All Canadians play hockey and say aboot too..

 

[Irvine511]

if we're going to bash the US, can we at least only bash those who voted for Bush?

 

[BonosSaint]

Let's see. Plenty of people in the US did have a conniption about nipple during the Superbowl, curse words in a 9/11 documentary and Saving Private Ryan, FCC taking considerable note of Bono saying Fuck on some awards show as well as other self-censorship on what is seen as offensive or traumatizing. We've had plenty of threads on "controversial" TV content, although I certainly disagree with Trevster on subject content. There is a certain different freedom in Canadian TV that I enjoy when I'm there. I think when we have many ridiculous controversies, it colors the way we are looked at.

 

[yolland]

Fair enough...

 

[deep]

Let's see. Plenty of people in the US did have a conniption about nipple during the Superbowl, curse words in a 9/11 documentary and Saving Private Ryan, FCC taking considerable note of Bono saying Fuck on some awards show as well as other self-censorship on what is seen as offensive or traumatizing. We've had plenty of threads on "controversial" TV content, although I certainly disagree with Trevster on subject content. There is a certain different freedom in Canadian TV that I enjoy when I'm there. I think when we have many ridiculous controversies, it colors the way we are looked at.

this is what I was thinking


and the most complaints


do come from the bible belters

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

Well on the flip side there is no way that no one in Canada has objections to what is on tv there, just as many people in the US don't care about a nipple or a swear word in a 9/11 documentary. You just can't confuse and comingle the issues and agendas of certain groups with the mentality of a country as a whole, or any region of the country as a whole. That's stereotyping.

 

[Irvine511]

You just can't confuse and comingle the issues and agendas of certain groups with the mentality of a country as a whole, or any region of the country as a whole. That's stereotyping.

indeed.

especially when there are more Californians than Canadians.

 

[BonosSaint]

Agreed, Mrs. S.

 

[martha]

especially when there are more Californians than Canadians.

Oh, and we will take over.

Just as soon as we put down our joints.

 

[indra]

it didn't come across as a joke

It didn't?

 

[Irvine511]

Oh, and we will take over.

Just as soon as we put down our joints.

oooh, look at me, i'm scared!

as if you can't spot a Californian coming from a mile away ...

 

[Vincent Vega]

And that's dangerous considering the recent successes of Canadian snipers.

 

[anitram]

I totally thought it came across as a joke, so I'm with indra on this one.

Although there is a huge and stark difference between CBC news and any of the US networks. I'm not even talking about Fox, but NBC, CBS, CNN, etc. The CBC is very much like the BBC, and completely different than the news seen in the US. I watch hours of news a day and I have all the US cable news channels as well as the Canadian ones and the BBC (and BBC world) and there is an enormous, obvious difference in both the delivery and the content.

That's not a judgment of the countries mentioned, but it is a commentary on their news media.

 

[martha]

as if you can't spot a Californian coming from a mile away ...

The guy in the jewelry store we went to after we had lunch with you tagged us as Californians the second we walked into the store.



We'll never take over now.

 

[yolland]

I totally thought it came across as a joke, so I'm with indra on this one.

Although there is a huge and stark difference between CBC news and any of the US networks. I'm not even talking about Fox, but NBC, CBS, CNN, etc. The CBC is very much like the BBC, and completely different than the news seen in the US. I watch hours of news a day and I have all the US cable news channels as well as the Canadian ones and the BBC (and BBC world) and there is an enormous, obvious difference in both the delivery and the content.

That's not a judgment of the countries mentioned, but it is a commentary on their news media.

I would think PBS would make for a better analogy there as it's our only national public/nonprofit network, although the way the shows are produced and distributed is quite different. It certainly has a different 'feel' from the other major networks; I wouldn't say it's 'just like' public television anywhere else or anything, though--not really familiar with enough others to make a comparison like that anyhow, and since I don't have a TV at this point I couldn't tell you what the state of PBS news coverage specifically is currently like.

To the extent that the joke was that the programming isn't in fact anything cutting-edge, I 'got' that part, but the implications of "will never gain viewership in the southern states" coupled with some of the responses to it didn't clearly read that way to me. But to be fair, that's a bit of a sore spot with me because the fact is that if you've got a pronounced Southern accent and you fail to perform precisely as expected in some social situation or another, there are those who will automatically attribute it to your 'Southern' stupidity/social backwardness/lack of cultural refinement. And I've more than once seen objections to that kind of thing earnestly responded to with, "Well but that's because it's true", including in here, and those kinds of assumptions do have consequences. Like I said though, I'm willing to accept it was just a joke, no biggie.

 

[Irvine511]

The guy in the jewelry store we went to after we had lunch with you tagged us as Californians the second we walked into the store.



We'll never take over now.

yes, Memphis often asks whatever has become of "those hippies we had brunch with."

and not to worry -- i'm sure my east coast uptightness and general suspiciousness about everyone and their motives would get me called out in a californian medicinal marijuana store.

 

[medmo]

But to be fair, that's a bit of a sore spot with me because the fact is that if you've got a pronounced Southern accent and you fail to perform precisely as expected in some social situation or another, there are those who will automatically attribute it to your 'Southern' stupidity/social backwardness/lack of cultural refinement. And I've more than once seen objections to that kind of thing earnestly responded to with, "Well but that's because it's true", including in here, and those kinds of assumptions do have consequences. Like I said though, I'm willing to accept it was just a joke, no biggie.

And a lot of times those comments, including the ones made in here, come from people who have spent little or no time in the US, let alone the southern US, and whose perceptions are in some part based on post tornado news coverage.

 

[martha]

Memphis

 

[Irvine511]

And a lot of times those comments, including the ones made in here, come from people who have spent little or no time in the US, let alone the southern US, and whose perceptions are in some part based on post tornado news coverage.

^

it's totally true, and i'm totally guilty of stereotyping the south, and i do find myself prejudging someone with a southern accent -- where having very long vowels = belief in Creationism.

however, having met some real Southerners, i've been both amazed at the truth of some of the stereotypes --whether it's the basic decency, manners, and hospitality, or the know-nothing religiosity, i have seen truth to each and every stereotype. and seen them subverted right before my eyes.