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Old 10-26-2002, 05:07 AM   #1
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Capital Punishment?

I know this has been discussed before.... but what are everyone's views on capital punishment? The reason I'm wondering is because I used to be against it, because spending the rest of your life in jail seemed like more of a punishment for these people. I also didn't really believe in the whole "eye for an eye" arguement. Because killing the criminal would not make the crime go away.

However, since the executions of Tim McVeigh and the impending trial of the two snipers, my views are changing a little. I was glad that McVeigh got the death sentence, even though I knew that his death would only bring little solace to the victim's families. With the two snipers I found myself thinking "Fry the bastards!!!"

Okay, now I know we can have a rational discussion about this. So no bickering or name calling, please (I know I'm taking all the fun out of it ).
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Old 10-26-2002, 06:17 AM   #2
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I am against the deat-penalty because :

1- I believe in god but i am not god so i can`t kill a person for any reason ( Judgement day will come )
2- There are enough not guilty people put to death. So if this is the case and there is a chance that inocent people putt to death,...
3- Death penalty is like abortion, just remove unwanted life from the face of the world. I think this is failiure of society and and only good for ease the feelings of revenge.

Read you,...
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Against it all the way
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Old 10-26-2002, 12:38 PM   #4
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For most of my life, I was pro-death penalty. I started to change my views on it a few years ago when DNA started clearing innocent people who had spent 10, 20 and 30 years behind bars. Those people were able to walk out of prison and at least try to get on with their lives, but what if someone is exectuted and then proven innocent? Its too late. My thinking was, until the system improves, the death penalty should not be an option.

But, I have to admit that in the last year, my thinking has started to change back to pro-death penalty, at least for horrendous criminals like the snipers.

I'm still torn by the man playing God issue but when you take that many lives, I guess paying the ultimate price is justified.
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God provides forgiveness from sin. Man provides consequences for sin. In the context of a system of justice, the death penalty is a valid form of consequence if so chosen by society. Godís Word acknowledges this and does not forbid it.

May we live at peace so that we never need a death penalty.
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Old 10-26-2002, 03:53 PM   #6
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I'm for the death penalty. I dont see why tax payers money should keep child rapists, murderers alive when you can just cut off their head and use their organs and the money that is saved by not having to pay to keep them alive for a better cause.
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me too, but i think that we need to find way not have us (taxpayers) paying to keep them in jail.
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Please do not equate the death penalty with abortion.

Death Penalty is an administration of justice after a trial by peers. Quite different when you think about it.

I am for the death penalty especially in cases where there is no NEED for DNA evidence. DNA has absolutely nothing to do with the sniper crime.

As for crimes where DNA may clear someone, lets use it.

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Please do not equate the death penalty with abortion.

Death Penalty is an administration of justice after a trial by peers. Quite different when you think about it.

I am for the death penalty especially in cases where there is no NEED for DNA evidence. DNA has absolutely nothing to do with the sniper crime.

As for crimes where DNA may clear someone, lets use it.



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Good post Dread-

Never understood the death penality/abortion connection..
1 party is found guilty of crimes..
1 party is innocent..

Whats up w that?

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As for crimes where DNA may clear someone, lets use it.

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i may be misunderstanding this...but you're saying if someone might get off because of DNA evidence...we should kill them before that happens?
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The death penalty is more expensive than life in prison

http://www.amnestyusa.org/abolish/cost.html
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I dont see how chopping off their heads and using the organs to save lives can be more expensive than life in prison. Even if it did cost more. Atleast if oyu kill them you can use them for something good.
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The death penalty is more expensive than life in prison

http://www.amnestyusa.org/abolish/cost.html
This is a distortion based on the cost of over-priced lawyers and excessive, multiple appeals, which have since been refined.
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Only in EXTREME cases- and the snipers are an extreme case. Any time you have people driving around looking for places to kill people and killing innocent people doing everyday things until no one feels safe, when lives of children are threatened, sorry, these people are a waste of the air they take to breathe and the money it would take to feed them for the rest of their lives. They cold bloodedly calculated their strikes, it was no heat of the moment mistake like some murders. They took the lives of those 10 people and ruined the lives of the injured and all the victims' families. A statement has to be made that there is a deterrant to such crimes. You're going to DIE- not sit in jail the rest of your lives, eating good food, exercizing, watching TV and playing internet and sports,which many prisoners do. Some prisoners also escape or help plot other crimes from within prison walls. Very evil and dangerous people like the snipers and McVeigh deserve the death penalty.
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http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs2.html

http://www.deathpenalty.org/facts/ot...ffective.shtml

The cost also differs state to state, there's tons of info, I'm tired of being to radical left wing spokesperson for the night, I hand the job over to someone else

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