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Old 12-13-2003, 08:41 AM   #46
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Void of intellectual stimuli? Right....

These posts of yours Diamond don't get any funnier with repetition.
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Old 12-13-2003, 08:44 AM   #47
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Just thought I'd share some thoughts...

It's absolutely amazing how just about any thread in FYM will result in discussion (aka, thread hijacking) about war, military, etc.... OR someone trying to blame one political party or another.

... and I wonder... don't those same people (that hijack the topics) ever get tired of trying to hammer their own views into others?


My point.....?

Last time I checked, the subject of this thread mentioned "Canada's View on Social Issues", not "Canada's View on political/military Issues".

Elvis,

You make excellent points. I do have a question.

Are we supposed to IGNORE blatantly incorrect statements thrown into threads? It does not matter if they are statements about the US. Should any statement, made in a thread be open for correction/debate/discussion?

It seems unfair that no matter what the thread topic if any forum member saw something said that was not correct, it should be open game for debate.

If I am out of line, or I am the person you are referring to, please PM me, I can take it......
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Canada has nice ppl sure but Canada is has such a large void of intelleual stimuli, so for ppl thinking their social policies have superiorty over the USA's makes one giggle.

Canada reminds me of a beauitifully large,dependent dysfunctional child.

Oh Canada we love you so.

As far as topics segwaying into other topics, I dont see that as one person hijacking a thread.
Sure protocol dictates one should stick to a topic however as conversations evolve.. sometimes so do threads...

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Diamond this is one of your best yet. Fair dinkum dude. The first half is more blatant than you are usually putting out here, so if anything I guess the arrogant honesty can be applauded perhaps. But then, not really. Diamond next time someone starts bashing the good old US of A, re-read your post here and you will find your answer why.
Honestly.

But on a cheerier note, the second half of your post here is great. Summed up perfectly.
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Old 12-13-2003, 11:07 AM   #49
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Im going to tackle a few replies....

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Diamond: Canada has nice ppl sure but Canada is has such a large void of intelleual stimuli, so for ppl thinking their social policies have superiorty over the USA's makes one giggle.

Canada reminds me of a beauitifully large,dependent dysfunctional child.

a) Have you even been to Canada?

b) Oddly, most (read that: majority) of the people I've met from Canada are far more intellectual than those in the states. I've met all sorts, from pig farmers, to students, to factory workers, to people in the medical fields..... they've all been far more intellectual than people in the states, by a comparison of percentage of intellectuals vs ignorants.

c) As far as dependence, in my opinion Canada is incredibly smart. What they seem to do...is NOT spend resources where they aren't needed. They are much like the youngest child in a family - they've watched how the 2 older sibilings have screwed up, and have had successes.... the youngest child has benefitted from watching... and has learned how to play their cards, and when to play them... they know how to take advantage (milk) a good situation, and avoid bad ones.

As far as being dysfunctional, while every country has problems (including the US), Canada for the most part does seem to have it's shit together - they deal with social issues, crime, and diplomacy quite well. Personally, I think the largest problem with Canada it the fact that the US is next door. US economics and politics are corrupting both their govt and private sector, and slowly scratching at their social and cultural differences.




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Blacksword: Void of intellectual stimuli? Right....

These posts of yours Diamond don't get any funnier with repetition.
The only thing I see void of intellectual stimuli are Diamonds un-funny repetititve posts which never stray from being overly patriotic, ethno-centric, and pro-republican.

I can find faults in any political party, govt, religion, etc., but for some reason that ability to be intellectually independent seems to be defunct for Diamond, as well as others. An unfortunate truth, but not everyone is an intellectual, nor able to approach topics in an intellectual manner.



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Dreadsox: You make excellent points. I do have a question.

Are we supposed to IGNORE blatantly incorrect statements thrown into threads? It does not matter if they are statements about the US. Should any statement, made in a thread be open for correction/debate/discussion?

It seems unfair that no matter what the thread topic if any forum member saw something said that was not correct, it should be open game for debate.

If I am out of line, or I am the person you are referring to, please PM me, I can take it......

a) Thanks, it was my intention

b) Why does everything have to be 100% or 0%? All the way or no way? There is a middle ground you know...
Have you ever thought of responding to something you believe to be incorrect, and using restraint to stay on topic, keeping your tangent limited to one reply? For instance, in another thread (about Reagan) I had mentioned about the US giving weapons to IRAQ (with Reagans involvement), and you pursued the tangent within that thread. Notice... I never replied to your questions following my post on that tangent. I used restraint in an attempt to keep the thread on topic. Now... if you really wish to continue the tangent, why not start a new thread? I mean, that's what threads are for

c) I wasn't specifically talking about one person, but a frequent group of posters here in FYM. It is not my intention to single anyone out, except Diamond of course which has been previously put on hiatus from FYM for the same antics, over and over and over and over and over and over and over... you get my point.


And as far as what Angela just posted.... she's right: It's posts/comments like Diamonds that make others in the world find Americans to be terribly ignorant, closed minded, and egotistical.

Heck, I'm American and I'm disgusted by how ignorant our general populace is.

P.S. I'm also disgusted by how ignorant the planet's general populace is.
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This American thinks Canada and Canadians are awfully damn cool. I'd seriously consider moving there if it weren't for the weather. Cold weather is pure murder on my joints, so health-wise I am better off in a semi-tropical climate.
Oops, I hope I didn't start a controversy about weather.
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This American thinks Canada and Canadians are awfully damn cool. I'd seriously consider moving there if it weren't for the weather. Cold weather is pure murder on my joints, so health-wise I am better off in a semi-tropical climate.
Oops, I hope I didn't start a controversy about weather.
I would too. And not just because my gf is Canadian....
although I will say, when/if we have children.. somehow we'll make sure they have dual citizenship.
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Elvis, I did want to say that I think the reason we end up discussing war matters in various threads is because it's getting hard to talk about the Bush Administration without talking about war. They've been in two wars in one Presidential term, and made war a key issue. It's intertwined with a bunch of other issues, i.e, feminism, because the Taliban was so viciously anti-feminist, and these terrorists are horrifically anti-feminist, and Arabic/Moslem liberals don't like these people, etc, etc. Jean Sasson's feminist friend from Saudi Arabia, Sultana, a princess in the house of Al-Saud, regularly called the U.S. for war news.
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Elvis, I did want to say that I think the reason we end up discussing war matters in various threads is because it's getting hard to talk about the Bush Administration without talking about war. They've been in two wars in one Presidential term, and made war a key issue. It's intertwined with a bunch of other issues, i.e, feminism, because the Taliban was so viciously anti-feminist, and these terrorists are horrifically anti-feminist, and Arabic/Moslem liberals don't like these people, etc, etc. Jean Sasson's feminist friend from Saudi Arabia, Sultana, a princess in the house of Al-Saud, regularly called the U.S. for war news.


Whats this got to do with the Social differences between the US and Canada?

President Bush and his warmongering attitude do not represent the entire social view of US Citizens... which is an entirely different topic. Start a new thread on it if you wish
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Whats this got to do with the Social differences between the US and Canada?

President Bush and his warmongering attitude do not represent the entire social view of US Citizens... which is an entirely different topic. Start a new thread on it if you wish
I wasn't trying to steal the thread or whatever, I was just answering a question. I don't have anything to say about war right now.
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I'm confused now, Elvis were you taking me as being onside with with Diamond?
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Here are some things which make Canada such a great country:
We have the 'Smarties' candy unlike Americans (Very important, isn't it?)
This is an inaccurate statement. we do have "Smarties" candy here, although the main time I see it is around Halloween when it appears in variety bags of cheap trick-or-treat candy.

And I will introduce the opinion that Americans have better organizations than Canadians.

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*eats smarties while re reading this thread*
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